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mn is a public website. We do not sign up to terms and conditions that say threads may not be discussed outside of mn, on twitter etc...

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wannaBe · 21/02/2011 09:55

yep, thread about a thread... big deal.

so - thread started on mn. Another poster tweeted about said thread, came back to the thread and said she'd tweeted about it.

Subsequently posters called for her to be banned for tweeting about a sensitive thread, followed by lots of other nasty name-calling.

Thing is, the thread was public anyway. You don't have to be logged into mn to view it. You don't have to have a button next to each post to tweet about it - all you'd have to do is copy/paste the link into twitter. Once you put your private business on a public website you lose control over what happens to it/who talks about it/tweets about it/potentially writes about it in the press.

To suggest that a poster should be banned for talking about a thread that is on a public website, on another public website is ridiculous.

Mn has hundreds of thousands of hits a day. People are very naive if they think that their private, sensitive business is limited to the few people that post on the threads in question.

And people do discuss mn on twitter. Both in terms of threads/the potential genuineness of posters/the outcomes of threads. It's just that they don't come back on to mn to talk about having done so.

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wannaBe · 21/02/2011 10:29

"actually i think it is the op's responsibility not to share delicate information about her family if it makes them identifiable." quite.

Lots of people have said already they weren't aware that twitter buttons weren't available in certain sections - I wasn't until someone pointed it out. Tbh I don't think I've ever tweeted a thread but if I were going to I wouldn't look for a button anyway but would just copy/paste the link in.

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LoopyLoopsHulaHoops · 21/02/2011 10:32

Unfortunately, the thread did get to be a big bunfight between pro- and anti- porn people, but there was also good, solid advice in there, which has helped the OP.

Squeaky - just because Dittany is a big name on here, doesn't mean that when people agree with what she is saying they are "her support team". In fact, it is very often that she has to deal with a lot of criticism from all areas. She can cope with that, but it certainly started getting nasty and personal (before the Twitter nonsense started) when some pro-porn people started attacking her. Just because she is a strong and opinionated character does not mean that you can abuse her.

As for name-calling the other way, I've just looked over it, and all I can see is people pointing out how vile Alouiseg's actions are, rather than calling her names. I apologise if I've missed something.

LadyintheRadiator · 21/02/2011 10:32

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FindingStuffToChuckOut · 21/02/2011 10:32

err isn't there a TWEET button on every single post on MN??? Just to the left of the FACEBOOK button?

LadyintheRadiator · 21/02/2011 10:33

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LoopyLoopsHulaHoops · 21/02/2011 10:35

Go to bereavement or relationships and look.

wannaBe · 21/02/2011 10:39

so where do you draw the line at what can and cannot be tweeted?

Lots of people post sensitive topics in chat so they will disappear, yet those topic will have twitter buttons next to them.

It is unreasonable to suggest that posts cannot be tweeted by virtue of their location on the boards.

The lack of twitter/fb buttons is discrete enough that most people seem to have not noticed, so the message obviously isn't that clear, is it?

If riven had posted in sn rather than chat, would people have not tweeted her thread because there were no twitter buttons? somehow I don't think so.

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JamieLeeCurtis · 21/02/2011 10:43

It is unreasonable to suggest that posts cannot be tweeted by virtue of their location on the boards.

Actually, I don't think it is unreasonable. That, I would suggest, is the line. Otherwise some cow will come on and see fit to tweet a post about Domestic Abuse which is on Relationships, just because she can.

LeninGrad · 21/02/2011 10:44

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wannaBe · 21/02/2011 10:55

but jlc it is unreasonable to think that people won't tweet it purely because there aren't buttons. Because as people have already said, most don't use the buttons anyway but copy/paste.

And while the buttons might not be on those topics, the invitation to follow mn on twitter/facebook still is, with the logo's right at the top of the page, so there is no clear message that tweeting certain topics is discouraged.

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JamieLeeCurtis · 21/02/2011 10:58

I fear I am just a miserable old dinosaur left behind. I hate FB with a passion. Don't get Twitter. Think that people have lost sight of how to talk to each other.

You are right though - there's no way to police it.

PaperView · 21/02/2011 10:58

ANybody can link threads to wherever they like, there has always been the ability to copy and paste a link.

MN is no longer a community of people who want to have a bit of banter, share some advice, have a difference of opinion and support each other in rough times with the odd troll thrown in.

It is now a haven for journo's and those seeking adoration and attention.

It has changed - as forums do and some people will like that, some won't. We used to call it The Mothercare Effect.

The fact of the matter is that now we have to be MORE aware that things can be opened out to a wider audience much faster than they could back when the fields were full of lavenderr Wink

Alouiseg · 21/02/2011 10:59

Question: How many people are on Mumsnet? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?

Question: How many followers do i have on Twitter? 290...

Why is tweeting a thread to 290 people so heinous when its out for thousands and thousands of people already?

JamieLeeCurtis · 21/02/2011 10:59

Paper - that's where I'm going when I leave here - lavender fields

ThePosieParker · 21/02/2011 11:01

wannabe...I like Alouiseg but she displayed bad form and was trying to drum up posters who supported her pro-everymen-wanks-support.

ThePosieParker · 21/02/2011 11:02

I also would like a button when you name change that you can erase posts that are over a month old.

wannaBe · 21/02/2011 11:03

You have 290 followers? I want that many followers. no spammers mind. Wink

JLC I do get what you're saying and I often find it hard to get my head round just how much stuff some post online, but I think that about here too as well as fb/twitter - I read threads sometimes and am genuinely Shock at the amount of seemingly personal information people are prepared to share on a public website. But the reality is that once you share that info on a website such as mn whether it then escalates to fb/twitter is sort of irelevant because it's already out there iyswim. So people should perhaps think about not sharing such personal info in the first place. iyswim?

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Alouiseg · 21/02/2011 11:07

I wasnt trying to drum up anyone, it was just amusing at the level of denial of porn use and masturbation.

People Wank. Just about all of them.

My initial reaction the the thread was it was a clumsy thing to happen and dealt with clumsiliy. Then the hysterics came in, he looks at porn...omg...leave him....its child abuse....its disrepectful.

My Twitter post said SHOCK HORROR Man uses porn! and linked the thread.

Its not headline news, i have 290 followers, not several grillion participants like Mumsnet.

MyGoatsBeenGot · 21/02/2011 11:10

Ahh, maybe you can answer my question then alouiseg - why did you tweet something from on here? Why DO people do it? I'm a bit baffled...

(BTW: I'm not bothered by what was tweeted, or by whom as such, I am just curious as to why its done? What it achieves?)

ThePosieParker · 21/02/2011 11:13

Alouiseg....okay, whatever you say. Personally I wouldn't have found this woman's distress so entertaining, but then you and I have different views on porn! And what is your trick gathering so many followers? Are you in fact a bot?!!!

TheShriekingHarpy · 21/02/2011 11:13

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ScaredOfCows · 21/02/2011 11:15

It's not about the porn use though, is it. It's about the fact that behind that thread are real people, who are upset by events in their home. And that someone couldn't respect that, but felt the need to turn it into entertainment.

Maryz · 21/02/2011 11:16

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donkeyderby · 21/02/2011 11:21

Wow, I'm a complete novice. People really go on MN, then tweet and FB about MN?

LIFE IS TOO SHORT.