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mn is a public website. We do not sign up to terms and conditions that say threads may not be discussed outside of mn, on twitter etc...

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wannaBe · 21/02/2011 09:55

yep, thread about a thread... big deal.

so - thread started on mn. Another poster tweeted about said thread, came back to the thread and said she'd tweeted about it.

Subsequently posters called for her to be banned for tweeting about a sensitive thread, followed by lots of other nasty name-calling.

Thing is, the thread was public anyway. You don't have to be logged into mn to view it. You don't have to have a button next to each post to tweet about it - all you'd have to do is copy/paste the link into twitter. Once you put your private business on a public website you lose control over what happens to it/who talks about it/tweets about it/potentially writes about it in the press.

To suggest that a poster should be banned for talking about a thread that is on a public website, on another public website is ridiculous.

Mn has hundreds of thousands of hits a day. People are very naive if they think that their private, sensitive business is limited to the few people that post on the threads in question.

And people do discuss mn on twitter. Both in terms of threads/the potential genuineness of posters/the outcomes of threads. It's just that they don't come back on to mn to talk about having done so.

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NinkyNonker · 21/02/2011 12:43

There is a difference between something being out there for people to find, and someone (not the op) pointing it out/holding it up for all to see. If it was the op doing so that is one thing as it was her issue, but for someone else to do it was really low. Especially about a sensitive issue that the op was obviously struggling with, in what she thought was a safe environment.

Nasty. Whether it is against the 'rules' or not, the 'lady' who did it should be ashamed of herself for showing so little sensitivity.

EverettUlyssesMcGill · 21/02/2011 12:44

I don't have many followers, and can't actually remember how to use twitter, so if I get into an argument on here I just have to namechange to support myself.

It's very wearing. Grin

There have been times when I've been roasted and sitting there thinking 'where are all the nice people?' and nobody comes to help.

But I wouldn't tweet about it. That's just cowardly.

cyb · 21/02/2011 12:44

Humph Lenin, you've never sent me a picture

LeninGrad · 21/02/2011 12:45

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BitOfFun · 21/02/2011 12:45

The first Christmas MN meet up I went to, I ended up sitting opposite a girl I did my A levels with. Most awkward Grin

LeninGrad · 21/02/2011 12:46

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cyb · 21/02/2011 12:49

Well, loft dimensions yes, but nothing else Wink

LeninGrad · 21/02/2011 12:50

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Eleison · 21/02/2011 12:51

I don't think anyone on Twitter could stand next to Lenin's loft conversion in a shop queue without recognising it as Lenin's.Grin

LeninGrad · 21/02/2011 12:52

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EverettUlyssesMcGill · 21/02/2011 12:54

I would love a picture of Lenin, for no other reason than I am convinced she is my sister leading a parallel life and need to persuade myself that she isn't!

StealthPolarBear · 21/02/2011 12:56

I knew you were blind but I still can't imagine that making you so identifiable! But you're right - put all the pieces together - quite worrying.

AitchTwoOh · 21/02/2011 12:56

i have definitely seen back me up posts on fb, bof.

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Stupiditysquared · 21/02/2011 13:00

I was the OP on the thread in question.

There is no link to twitter from relationships and that was partly in my mind when I posted it there, although perhaps I would have done better to post it in off the beaten track.

But then I didn't know that a member of our forum that was dedicted to support would have elected to tweet that thread and variously uphold that thread as either a joke or the product of trolling. That was a really rotten thing to do tbh.

I received literally loads of PMs about that thread, the vast majority of which were kind and sympathetic. There were one or two expressing doubts about whether I was trolling. To those people I provided my regular posting name. Not I suppose that that should make any difference to whether or not I was trolling, but at least they could see I'd been a mumsnetter for years.

Yes it's all in the public domain. But if those tweets had been on MN, they would have been deleted for either nastiness or troll-hunting. So I'm calling you cowardly for doing something on Twitter that would have got you deleted on MN.

thumbwitch · 21/02/2011 13:04

Lenin - is your loft conversion finished now? Is it fantastic? was very Envy of it all...

MyGoatsBeenGot · 21/02/2011 13:06

Ok, thanks for truthfully explaining alouiseg.

I won't claim to understand still, but maybe its a Twitter/Facebook thing that goes on that I don't get as I dont use either.

Also, maybe I just don't care enough about whats said on here, sometimes I log in, more often I just browse not logged in - MN is just a site to me to visit to read, get info and occasionally comment on.

ChippingInFanciesCheeseOnToast · 21/02/2011 13:07

If I could have my way, MN would be vetted membership only, no namechanging allowed and it wouldn't be possible to take any information off of the site and share it with the rest of the world. I want our own 'safe' place to post, chat, be honest, open yet still has such a wide variety of people. I hate this feeling of being exposed.

I think the very least people can do is not link sensitive threads to the 'outside' world - it just seems like common decency to me... I know you can google and read, but it's one thing for one person to go searching and find it, but quite another to offer it up on a plate.

Sorry AlouiseG, we normally get on well, but I just don't think this was a nice thing to do?! I understand what you are saying about the number of people on here v the number of people on your 'follow me' twitter, but once it's out there it gets passed around - how mortified is her DD going to be if she comes across it on twitter :( whereas if it had stayed on MN she wouldn't be at risk of seeing it. I also know you weren't the only one to twitter it.

Not all 'advances in technology' are improvements :(

I think I may join JLC in her lavendar field :(

ScaredOfCows · 21/02/2011 13:08

SS such a shame that your thread was treated in such a shabby way. I'm glad that you had supportive PM's, but again, what a shame that you had to be faced with revealing your usual posting name just to quieten people who could have just backed away if they felt that you weren't genuine.

It doesn't ever occur to me when I post that people might be linking to Twitter/FB etc. As someone upthread said, those particular social networking sites have a completely different ethos to MN, and are therefore used in a completely different way.

This whole thing makes me feel quite Sad for the way that MN is changing, or perhaps it has always been that way, but in my 4 years of being here, I just didn't notice.

PeterAndreForPM · 21/02/2011 13:08

hat post, right there, from the OP of the original hread, is he only one that matters here, really

I think she deserves an apology

I can't say I've never done anything daft in/around MN, 'cos I have, in spades

but I would hold my hands up, and admit I was wrong

it will say a lot, IMO, to see if that happens, or if he poster in question carries on defending what is, in my mind, indefensible

yogididabooboo · 21/02/2011 13:11

I would suggest re evaluating your "friends" iin that case aitch

BitOfFun · 21/02/2011 13:20

Yes, Aitch, I clearly mix with a more select group who have better manners Grin. I suppose there are some people with dozens of mners on their facebook, so they might see more mn gossip than I do. But I do alright Grin

Maryz · 21/02/2011 13:27

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mumbar · 21/02/2011 13:40

Blimey read from beginning to end and have gone from YANBU to actually agreeing in principle with what ladyin is saying.

I think there are links to twitter/ FB but you have to use the rules rules of social courtesy here as you would in RL. Yes its the internet, yes its public but IMHO it often only goes as public as posters make it iyswim. Its unlikely a random thread will appear under google for anyone to read but more likely to get read through twitter/FB.