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To think that ALL state schools don't just produce teenage pregnancies, but valuable members of society?

156 replies

webbygeek91 · 20/02/2011 17:37

To think that ALL state schools don't just produce teenage pregnancies, but valuable members of society?

Funny seeing some threads, as I remember going to my godmothers DS picnic & nursery sports day, and this seemed to be the view of one parent.

It was in Hampshire though...

I just laughed.

OP posts:
ScramVonChubby · 21/02/2011 14:58

'Well every area/county/city has "cheaper" parts, surely that wouldn't involve uprooting too much?
''

LHA isn't worked like that; a mive to the cheap part would mean a ten mile move and completely diferents chooling options- I spent seven years f my life fighting to get the SN provision they have, I am not going to start again if it meant squatting on the common.

If it emant moving to a cheaper part fo the town fine, but it doesn;t. IN fact losing thois place would mean 6 months in a B&B with my two disabled children in afoster care- according to the council and social services anyway. neitehr could use B&B shared amenities.

As it happens we don;t get full HB only a little as we both work and I am carer as well: I wish someone would tell me why I am consiered disposable when all we do is try dn get from day to day with 4 kids with varying degrees of SN as best we can taking teh minimum we can from the state.

sue52 · 21/02/2011 15:03

You are quite right Pagwatch, Ladyofthemanor just managed to a pee me off a bit today.

LadyOfTheManor · 21/02/2011 15:06

Sue, having a different opinion from you, makes you mad?

Scram- yes you'd be mad to move, with your dc. I meant those to which it is more accessible...perhaps those who don't have children at all?

Tortington · 21/02/2011 15:07

are teenage pregnancies and valuable members of society mutually exclusive?

stick that in your pipe and ...don't smoke it around privately educated children

BettyDouglas · 21/02/2011 15:08

To me, growing up in poverty meant I was even more terrified at getting pregnant at 16! I knew what it would have meant both socially and economically. We do ok and it just wouldn't be the same for either of my DDs. I'd support them, counsel them in the options and if they decided to keep the baby we would be able to help them to continue with their education or not. Either way, they would not live in poverty.

They and their brother are privately educated. Fee paying parents are a mixed bag just like state using parents. Please don't align me with LOTM as nothing she has said on this thread resonates with our ethos as a family.

Teenagers have sex; some get pregnant. I don't think it's a state/private debate at all. I think more affluent girls and those from supportive families may make different choices than girls growing up in poverty, especially the less academic girls.

Aspiration is endemic in good private schools. But, it's also there in abundance in high performing comprehensives in areas popular with m.c parents. It's also there in those comps in more challenging areas with excellent, inspirational teachers. It is this personal aspiration that makes teenage girls more careful, wherever they go to school.

ScramVonChubby · 21/02/2011 15:11

LOTM that's the thing isn;t it?

government rules are fir all claimants.

I don;t have a single isue with single people not inw work and with no SN or carer responsibilities being encouraged to move; not a thing. Oha s long as theya re not elderly, once read some scary stats on rates of deterioration from moving people who are elderly.

The proposals are for anyone needing any HB.

Oh and also a friend of my sisters 9well us a swell but we're not geographically close any longer) had her first at 16, 30 weeker. Second a few eyars later. Then she lost one at birth and has had another since: she's 30 now.

Bloody amazing Mum, independent, worked always- fabulous example.

Plenty of teen mums are.

LadyOfTheManor · 21/02/2011 15:14

I don't deny that , you say teenagers, I say children, make "good" mums.

I sometimes wonder if it isn't a monkey see, monkey do situation, which is becoming common in certain areas.

Snappedwife · 21/02/2011 15:18

Of course not its all the filthy dirty private school sluts that get up the duff by fucking anyone (not just Rupert or Tarquin) and then have their private abortions all paid for by Daddy!

LadyOfTheManor · 21/02/2011 15:20

I wonder if a private abortion is cheaper than a lifetime of benefits?

Pagwatch · 21/02/2011 15:22

Really?

we are calling school children

''filthy, dirty, private school sluts'.

Nice.

ScramVonChubby · 21/02/2011 15:53

Absolutely Pag; well said.

Not entirely sure I like monkeys either tbh, but sluts is horrid.

GMajor7 · 21/02/2011 16:03

Wow. I've been avoiding this thread as there have been quite a few State Vs. Private threads lately, but I couldn't help myself. The pull of AIBU can be quite overwhelming.

LOTM, surely you are having us on?

LadyOfTheManor · 21/02/2011 16:05

With which part? I lost the will to live half way through.

GMajor7 · 21/02/2011 16:14

You do understand you are conversing with very many state educated types on here don't you? Just a warning as you may not wish to sully your bourgeois disposition through contact with us mere proles Hmm

It's a wind-up, right?

NonnoMum · 21/02/2011 20:24

Hahahaha Lady's Mother. Would be a travesty if your daughter learnt her timestables alongside people who

leave the milk bottle on the table...

ambarth · 21/02/2011 20:28

AIBU to think private schools turn out valuble members of society and not just hooray henrys, MPs and trolls?

Cursingtheboobytum · 21/02/2011 20:50

Good Lord! What a lot of tosh LOTM speaks (in my humble opinion of course).

I really can't believe that a person exists in this day and age with such narrow-minded views. Society is so mixed now that it is often hard to tell who is state or privately educated or what 'class' that person might even consider themselves to be.

This is my first negative post by the way. I normally keep schtum and just read but I cannot sit on the fence on this one.

Oh, and for the record, I was state educated. No girl became pregnant in my year, the year above or the year below. I have never ever felt myself to be at a disadvantage socially or educationally because of how I was schooled.

Cursingtheboobytum · 21/02/2011 21:02

I've been trolled, haven't I? Doh! Will stick to reading in future and not get drawn in by trolls.

NIght night all x

Catnao · 21/02/2011 21:13

I was privately educated. I had Catholic parents. Made it through to final year at university before I had my son. [wink}

Catnao · 21/02/2011 21:14

And I can't even Wink properly, it seems...

redpanda13 · 21/02/2011 21:36

It must be trolling? I too mix with people from different backgrounds and nobody cares about whether I went to state or private school. They don't feel the need to comment on my choice for DD.
Like I said my closest friend went to an exclusive boarding school and I went to state school. We met while in university accomodation in our 1st year. Same university, similar field of study and we now earn roughly the same. 20 year friendship and neither of us have ever had a state vs private argument.

Catnao · 21/02/2011 21:48

I had a baby by someone who went to a COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL! The shame! Am I scum, or just a BIT scum? Wink

Wook · 21/02/2011 21:51

Well if you went to a private school yourself, you're not scum. But your dc is half scum, obviously! What were you thinking of Catnao?!

Catnao · 21/02/2011 21:53

Shit - and we are thinking of definitely sending the poor child to a comp too - shall we just turn ourselves in as scum parents, or hope that some of the second generation unscumminess will shine through?

reelingintheyears · 21/02/2011 22:00

I'm not scum...
I went to an all girls boarding school dont'cha know.

However DP is proper scum...comprehensive school and council house kid him.

DC all went to local state schools.

I am scum aren't i?? Grin

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