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To think that ALL state schools don't just produce teenage pregnancies, but valuable members of society?

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webbygeek91 · 20/02/2011 17:37

To think that ALL state schools don't just produce teenage pregnancies, but valuable members of society?

Funny seeing some threads, as I remember going to my godmothers DS picnic & nursery sports day, and this seemed to be the view of one parent.

It was in Hampshire though...

I just laughed.

OP posts:
create · 20/02/2011 19:28

Ah then you're probably right, but that's not because you (plural) valued your parents' opinion etc, that's because you had no opportuntity

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:29

Wook- Forgive me for that error. I don't proof read and tend to type and then do something else and come back to it. Not that that is the issue here, which I'm sure you're aware of.

reelingintheyears · 20/02/2011 19:30

Wook.....Smile

Wook · 20/02/2011 19:30

No, the real issue is your contempt for people who have not had your advantages in life.

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:30

Well I was different, I valued their opinion and was terrified of not finishing school and going on to university.

I suppose if you were to hunt hard enough the opportunity would present itself.

vj32 · 20/02/2011 19:30

But you don't get any benefits at 15! So you aren't taken care of with tax payers money.

Options with baby at 15 - your Mum claims CB for you and baby or you are taken into care if she disowns you. Once you are 16 you might be able to get a bed sit in either supported housing (if lucky) or on the 14th floor of a tower block (if unlucky). However this is difficult because at 16 you are not legally old enough to sign a tenancy agreement. So most teen mothers have to stay with their parents or other relatives.

The idea that you have a baby and then have a fab time at the tax payers expense is bizarre - it just doesn't really happen. (Or not where I live anyway!)

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:31

I have no contempt. Pay for education, don't pay for education. I don't really care. It's only ever state educated people banging on about it though.

Amieesmum · 20/02/2011 19:32

Ladyofthemanor

Good theory and in general i agree with you on the whole. However my parents aren't uneducated and were in their mid 30's when they had me.
I come from a very middle class back ground. (and was a great source of embarrassment to them) I think however that has made all the difference in how i have bought dd up, and my morals & values.

I just never thought it would happen to me that was all. I didn't know about benefits at all, having never been subjected to them before hand.

I genuinely believe had i stayed at private school, i would never have fallen pregnant and my life would be very different from how it is today. Not necessarily better, just different.

usualsuspect · 20/02/2011 19:32

'It's only ever state educated people banging on about it though'

hahahahahahaha

Wook · 20/02/2011 19:32

Oh sorry Lady I thought that was you banging on about your lacrosse stick.

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:34

Let me guess Wook, you're state educated and so are you children and therefore you hate anyone who has had a better "opportunity" to do differently?

How sad for you.

LaWeasel · 20/02/2011 19:37

LadyOfTheManor has been posting rubbish all over the place. Poor quality faux ignorance designed to offend, in my humble opinion.

I also went to all girls boarding I knew of 3 pg, but only one baby in the time I was there. My friend who went to mixed boarding was told 6 pg a year was average, but she was first to have baby in a very long time.

Tolalola · 20/02/2011 19:39

I went to quite a well-known, private, all-girls boarding school. Pregnancies were not that uncommon, tbh, although I'd be doubtful if the school or parents knew about many of them.

All ended in abortion, except one that I can remember. Everyone was v. shocked when this one girl (age 16) decided to keep her baby (she left school). She never had any idea who the father was, there were 'several' candidates, according to her.

Wook · 20/02/2011 19:39

Lady I am not sad that I had an excellent state education, which equipped me extremely well for my own excellent degree, MA and potsgrad qualification. I have also loved all of the fifteen years I have spent working with a huge range of teenagers in a variety of state schools. Nothing sad there whatsoever :)
What makes me sad is that your parents forked out so much to educate you, yet you persist in seeing the world from a prejudiced and judgemental viewpoint.

Wook · 20/02/2011 19:39

Argh postgrad even!

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:39

Weasel, Faux ignorance? I presume you're referring to the thread about social housing, and I apologise if I don't know how that works. Forgive me for not scraping through high school with one baby on my hip, 3 GCSEs and living on a rough council estate. Not everyone knows all there is to know about fleecing the government, you do realise this don't you?

Ariesgirl · 20/02/2011 19:42

No one got pregnant in our state school year. And here I am 20 years later struggling to do so. Ay me, the irony.

reelingintheyears · 20/02/2011 19:42

LOTM...why do you assume Wook is state educated???

Is it because her grasp of English is better than yours?

And you with a DEGREE and a MASTERS.

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:43

I was right though wasn't I Reeling? I presumed she was state educated because of her hostile opinion of anyone who is not.

I really don't care who pays for education and who doesn't. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest. However, it's fair to say that there are more teen pregnancies in state education than not-at least because of the numbers of female pupils.

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:45

I made an error when typing, as did she. That does not mean state education is "better". I presume you know this.

The issue isn't about pregnancy, it's about people despising that others pay for education. A long standing issue on MN and I for one, don't understand the problem.

bibbitybobbityhat · 20/02/2011 19:46

Congratulations op, you have posted the most unfathomable thread title I have ever seen on Mumsnet in coming up to 5 years on here ...

I would like to join in (being state school educated and from Hampshire), but don't really get what you are saying.

reelingintheyears · 20/02/2011 19:51

No you were not right...

And i think you do care who pays and who does not.

Of course there are more pregnancies in stste schools because there are more children in state schools.

I went to a private boarding school and two girls left in the 5th form due to being pregnant.

My children went/go to state schools and i am not remotely hostile to either system.

But you are wrong to judge and frankly LOTM you do seem to look down your nose at people who aren't as fortunate as you say you are.

Wook · 20/02/2011 19:54

Ladyofthemanor Come off it- mine was a typo, yours was clearly a grammatical error. How absurd you're being to suggest that I despise the fact that your education was paid for- what do I care about your education and whether it was paid for or not?
What I don't like is the fact that, despite your educational 'advantage', you persist in taking such an ignorant, judgemental and contemptuous view of others. And sorry but your remarks about state schools on this thread are the most ridiculous and contemptuous stereotyping I have read in a long time.

LadyOfTheManor · 20/02/2011 19:55

Wook Biscuit enjoy it Grin

AintMissBeehiving · 20/02/2011 19:55

I went to a comprehensive and managed to emerge without a baby and with enough qualifications to enable me to gain a degree and then a professional qualification Shock. My friends became doctors, scientists, teachers, nurses, paramedics, builders, plumbers etc etc. Pretty productive and members of society I think.

My DH went to a well known public school, then Cambridge. Most of his contemporaries became bankers, or something in the city, unless of course they had a trust fund, in which case they now do very little. I can't comment on their productivity. DH is almost normal now Wink Grin