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Original poster

to be fed up that we still have Page 3 in 2011?

302 replies

JessinAvalon · 16/02/2011 11:30

If you are too, please vote for 38 Degrees to take it on as a campaign.

38degrees.uservoice.com/forums/78585-campaign-suggestions/suggestions/1492713-banning-page-3-as-it-symbolises-the-sexism-misogy?ref=comments

OP posts:
Stillchuckingit · 16/02/2011 18:09

Whey, hey

here they are

some of my intimate body parts: sliced, inflated and sprayed, readily available for your delictation for £1.50 along with a cup of tea and a hob knob

truly aspirational ...

curlymama · 16/02/2011 18:30

Plenty of people use their bodies in order to get the job they want.

Labourers, sportsmen, PE teachers, non topless models, plus size models, or should they all be banned too because bodies are being used to do a job?

specialknickers · 16/02/2011 18:36

YANBU. If I got my tits out on a bus, I could be arrested.

But a man can sit next to me on a bus, with the same breasts on display in a national "newspaper" and that's completely fine? What century are we living in again? What offensive nonsense. It's not okay. It wouldn't be okay to have a page three stunner with a 7 inch cock and IMHO it's not okay to see breasts there either.

JamieLeeCurtis · 16/02/2011 18:48

I agree Gleeb, and specialknickers

huddspur · 16/02/2011 19:19

YABU just don't buy the Sun if you disapprove of it.

PlanetEarth · 16/02/2011 19:30

"Just don't buy it"?

Words (almost) fail me. I'm part of society, not a person existing in a separate universe to the people buying the Sun/looking at page 3/appearing on page 3. I am affected by the attitude to women perpetuated by this tosh whether I buy the paper or not.

moondog · 16/02/2011 19:31

As long as you have vacuous women prepared to bare their tits and damp gussets to all and sundry, this will go on.

RamblingRosa · 16/02/2011 19:33

YANBU. Hate it as well. I'll sign the petition.

LadyOfTheManor · 16/02/2011 19:38

I don't buy The Sun and don't know any family members that do (so my ds hasn't got access to one atm). I have more of a problem with Nuts & lads' mags having topless women on the front of their publications.

LadyOfTheManor · 16/02/2011 19:39

Without wanting to be beaten by some feminists, but don't these women get paid huge amounts of money to strip bare? Isn't that their choice?

smokinaces · 16/02/2011 19:41

I buy the Sun regularly and can honestly say I wouldnt notice if the Page 3 was there or not. Doesnt bother me, never has, doubt it ever will. Its a woman with breasts.

smokinaces · 16/02/2011 19:42

In fact, if I were a lower weight I would love to do Page 3 for the money - I have fab boobs even after breastfeeding 2 kids Grin

toeragsnotriches · 16/02/2011 19:42

DS1 saw page 3 once on a train and told me he reckoned she had 'a lot of booby milk'. Grin

freshmint · 16/02/2011 19:42

It is dreadful. Can't believe it has gone on so long tbh

"what harm is it doing anyone"

sigh. do you really need to be told? you have no problem with women being objectified in a national newspaper and reduced down to a pair of tits who is always "up for it"?

LadyOfTheManor · 16/02/2011 19:45

Freshmint- isn't she choosing to be depicted like that? Isn't that what feminism is all about to choose to go topless or not?

LadyOfTheManor · 16/02/2011 19:46

Well you know I mean about the whole "choice" not that feminists talk about going topless.

Original poster
JessinAvalon · 16/02/2011 19:46

It may well be their "choice" but is it our choice to have their tits shoved in our faces on the train or the tube or in work and have our children pick up discarded copies of the Sun and see girls with their tits out? Plus, it does perpetuate the attitude that women are just there to be sex objects and men carry their attitude with them into the workplace and at home. If you've looked at the voting comments, you'll see that Rape Crisis have signed it.

As others have said, we don't live in a vacuum. And, in answer to the point of there being other things to worry about, it's not either/or. We can worry about Page 3 and about FGM and other abuses directed at women.

Is it not a little ironic to tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing after telling me that I shouldn't interfere in the choices that other women have supposedly made?

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HelenBaaBaaBlackSheep · 16/02/2011 19:46

YANBU, and for those who say it's harmless, I disagree - what makes the Sun particularly offensive is that it purports to be a newspaper and a family newspaper at that. It harms people because of the image of women it portrays in such a 'banal' way.

JamieLeeCurtis · 16/02/2011 19:50

Their choice is a shit choice for the rest of us.

LadyOfTheManor · 16/02/2011 19:54

Urm if you know that particular newspapers have things that you're not interested in looking at then why on earth bother reading them?

I don't read the Guardian because it's full of wank. I don't read The Sun, well, because I can read, I don't read the DM because it's, in my dad's words "a miserable women's paper"...you can opt out of reading things. I just hope that you're all parading around huge bill board signs moaning about the latest perfume advert or underwear sale.

Flaneuse · 16/02/2011 19:54

YANBU. It's vile. It sickens me that some women actually collude in their own objectification, and call anachronistic and offensive things like this 'empowerment'.

SardineQueen · 16/02/2011 19:55

YANBU and will sign.

I felt uncomfortable sitting next to men on the tube staring at page 3 when I was 13 and I felt uncomfortable with it yesterday.

I do not need to be confronted with images designed to sexually arouse men first thing in the morning on the way to work. Schoolgirls should not have to put up with it and neither should I.

It is soft porn and therefore it's not appropriate to wave it around on the tube, in the cafe, on the bus, wherever.

The suggestion that if people don't like it they can easily avoid it by not buying the paper is ludicrous.

freshmint · 16/02/2011 19:56

if you think feminism is about going topless then I suspect we will never agree about anything

LadyOfTheManor · 16/02/2011 19:57

I corrected it and said feminism is about CHOICE, in this case, the choice of going topless in a national paper..or not.

cjdamoo · 16/02/2011 19:58

Well I wont buy/ read the scum anyway as a LFC supporter and someone who would prefer to read real news not celeb drivel.

I can see all sides of the argument though. I do not agree its exploiting women. Page 3 ladies topless models on the whole have made a choice and theres some bloody savvy buisness women amongst them. Hell if I were younger perkier and slimmer who knows :)

I do however agree its really outdated and tacky in what is supposed to be a newspaper and I use the term newspaper loosely.