to ask if you would use donated breastmilk if it was available rather than formula?

[bubbleymummy]

Inspired by another thread.

I personally would rather use donated milk. If you wouldn't - why not?

Milamae and MrsSparkle - thank you for telling us your stories.

Milamae - it sounds like you are really doing the best you can for your child, and Im sure that brings them many advantages. You said you breastfed for 6 weeks, thats good, what was the reason you stopped? (Im sure you have already heard all the advantages of BM on this thread.)

MrsSparkle - Sounds like you did have a hard time when you tried to BF, like you felt very uncomfortable and pressured and unhappy. Is this the reason you didnt try to BF the second time?

Mila - you can't know that because you can't compare what your children would have been like if they were bf.

Why did you choose an organic diet? How do you know your children wouldn't have been just as healthy on a non-organic diet?

Mrsparkle don't feel bad I'm tough as old boots and battled a long painful arduous road of IVF and fertility treatment for years to get my dc. I'm no quitter however the 6 weeks of bf my twins then dd were without question the most hideous experience of my life and defeated me.7 years V 6 weeks!!!!!

Common sense told us in the nineties that a diet low in fat and high in carbs was a healthy diet. In the 21st century common sense is that a diet high in protein and low in carbs is healthy.

Common sense tells people who want to lose weight to stop eating.
Or that cutting down on water will reduce fluid retention.

And you can't know whether being ff has affected them. You can't create a parallel universe and do a comparative study, there is no way to know whether those particular children might have been marginally healthier had they been bf. No way to know.
But the studies, based on thousands, indicate that, bf is better than ff.

Well there was another reason I didn't want to carry on bf but would rather not say on here. Yes I had a bloody hard time and I feel guilty now for not liking my dd for the first week of her life. I didn't bf the second time because when I tried, I had those familiar feelings I had with dd. I was more confident to choose the right thing for my circumstances.

HH I stopped because they all had chronic jaundice, one was rushed into SCBU,one nearly did(his 1st f bottle stopped this) and one was dangerously under weight.I also found it the most painful experience ever,hated feeding them and it was effecting bonding and my sanity.

MrsSparkle - Would you have been happier with better breastfeeding support?

When it wasnt possible to BF, would you have been happier feeding your newborn with breastmilk if it was available?

Mila- to bring this slightly back on topic, would you have used donated milk for the jaundice if it was available? My friend was given donated milk in hospital for her jaundiced baby.

The high protein(if we're talking Atkins) had medical concerns actually ie common sense-too much fat is going to cause problems.

A balanced diet is always going to be ideal,not diets or food extremes,I don't think anybody would dispute that or that breast is best.

I don't think anymore support would have made a difference tbh. The issue for me was with my breasts rather then the milk. I would take someone elses milk yes, if I could use a bottle. I don't care if others bf, it was just my private issue with my breasts.

No I'd never use donated milk,I refused a btransfusion after dd. I remember the aids scares etc. There will always be a new scare.There was also no need I produced gallons of milk,I just couldn't get it into them.

Support would definitely have helped and I'm a huge advocator for lobbying for it as breast is best.I've never denied it isn't, it's just not the be all and end all,it doesn't guarantee anything and the lack of it doesn't doom babies to a life of ill health.

It's been fun but I'm off to bed now.

Mila, you have been disputing that breast is best.

Were you able to express mila?

Yes timewasting, I got that impression from both mrssparkle and milamae but now they have both said that they actually do agree that bm is better ... Not sure what we've been arguing about for the last few pages now! Should really go to sleep! :)

yes its been a really interesting discussion. Goodnight all x

A good days work.

I don't think she has disputed it, she hasn't said ff is best. She has just tried to get people to look at the bigger picture and that is whilst bf is healthier and would benefit if everyone lived the exact same lives, bf is just one of many factors that help with a persons health. Everything should be considered, not just one of many.

Blah blah blah again from sparkle and missy trying to dispute the facts about bf to suit them

Back to your bubble ladies with your weird logic and just stay there, there is no talking to you two. The fact remains that bf would have been best for your kids however you want to try and ignore this.

Can I just make an observation - Missy - whenever you have come on this thread the aggro factor has ramped up. You showed little compassion for Mrs Sparkle's story.

I can understand why you are passionate about bf but your zealotry is off-putting. I would not feel supported or encouraged by you.

I would absolutely have to be sure there was a rigorous screening system first, as i am not convinced there is at present.

Going back to OP, I did accept donated milk for dd when she was in hospital and never gave it a second thought. Later on, I donated milk myself for the hospital's milk bank.

Yes, I wanted to buy my sister's, but she wanted it for her own baby (selfish caaaaaw - hope you're reading this....)

Its more complex for me. I would have to know the mother's diet, did she smoke, does she drink coffee, what stage is her milk?