to ask if you would use donated breastmilk if it was available rather than formula?

[bubbleymummy]

Inspired by another thread.

I personally would rather use donated milk. If you wouldn't - why not?

Sparkle - you say the transformation in your baby was astonishing but this is because you had issues with bf - for your baby, there was nothing better than breast milk but you chose to give up and ignore the benefits that it would give your babies. Up to you but your babies would have benefited from being bf over ff however you want to dress it up

Actually, my common sense tells me that obviously breastmilk is better than modified cow milk.

Of course I refer to the science as well because I know that common sense isn't actually a reliable source of evidence.

Yep millymae back to your bubble

Oh get a life Missy

Sparkle I experienced the same thing-miserable,ill babies(in SCBU) and mummy on bm-happy,well babies and mummy on ff.

Missy I think your last post was just plain nasty until you've experienced bf that makes you hate feeding your babies and effects bonding I don't think you can make judgements.

"I think all that bf really has adled (sic) your brain"

"Take your tits out your brain"

Christ this thread has turned into one of the saddest I have ever seen. All it has proved tonight is that the biggest misogynists in the world are women - and that they are all on MN. Cannot bear to read any more

Mrsparkle come join me in my bubble,it's so peaceful

You see bubbly, when you say it like that "when you control all those other factors, then compare" well that makes sense I do so your point. If you take two babies, ff one and bf the other, then live then exactly the same lives, the bf one is healthier. Yes I get that totally.

The point I am trying to make is no two people live their whole lives the same. So if you get two people at 55 who has high blood pressure, one was ff and one was bf but both lived very different lives, it wouldn't matter how they were fed, their life factor would account for more then anything else.

Is this really so hard to see?

It always amazes me how some people will harp on about the effort they put into their child's diet, read them books etc but when it comes to bf - something that can offer lifelong benefits to a child's health, reduce the risk of cot death, ear infections, menengitis, tummy upsets and so so so much more - they don't put the effort in
Amazing how these benefits to a little baby can be so ignored by people

Very sad indeed

MrsSparkle, the person who was bf could have been iller had they been ff. No way to tell for one individual of course, but chances are...

How do they check whether a fatty diet has an impact on health?

How do you know what I have been through milly? I actually went through many many hurdles to bf which is why I feel so strongly - you have noooo idea

But I persevered as my baby's health and the importance and benefit of bm to my baby was the most important thing to me and I glad I did so thank you but I have a life and I am glad I persevered to give my baby the benefit of breast milk

Don't be sad Missy my dc are thriving,all free readers at 5,no allergies,very healthy(thanks to diet and lifestyle).All bright eyed and bushy tailed in the Mila house.

Wow missy, that really was a lovely thing to say wasn't it. You must feel really good.

Hmmmm Missy maybe my battle was bigger than yours.

Mila, I'm really glad that your kids are doing well, I really am. Struggling to breastfeed is the pits and it sounds like you do an amazing job with the reading, organic food etc.

But, that doesn't alter the facts that on average, bf babies are healthier than ff babies.

I'm not trying to have a go about ff, I can readily envisage circumstances in which it is the better choice for individual people in their own individual lives, particularly in this culture that doesn't value or support breastfeeding properly.

This is about the facts.

Back to your bubble ladies and have a with some of my super duper Breast milk In it!

Night and sweet breasty dreams!

Thing is Timewasting "the facts" as you call them have had little impact on the health of my dc, however their diet and lifestyle have.

Ps

I do feel super duper

And my battle was big

I think I'll pass on that one Missy,I don't know what it's got in it.

Timewasting

You are wasting your time with milly and sparkle

They don't want to know facts so leave them in their bubble or they might just combust!

PPS bet my battle was bigger,double in fact!!!!!

Mila, you can't know that. And just because they are healthy doesn't mean that another family of organic ffers aren't suffering as a result.

Again, how do you know what constitutes a healthy diet and lifestyle?

Mrssparkle - how does that negate the benefits of bf though? I'm really not sure what you are arguing tbh. Is an organic diet better than mars bars? Yes. Is an active lifestyle better than an unactive one? Yes. Is bf healthier than ff? Yes. You seem happy to accept the first two but not the third. Is this purely because you can provide the first two but weren't able to provide the third? It's nothing to feel guilty about but I don't think you can try to undermine the benefits of bm purely based on your own experience with nothing to back it up.

TCOB - I was quoting other posters. They are not my opinions.

Well timewaster to be fair you have just tried to state facts and haven't judged. It is attitudes like missy that appual me by trying to make mothers who struggled with bf feel like they are the worst mothers in the world. I just pray she isn't a health worker because she has no emperthy whatsoever.

With me I struggled mentally and emotionally as well as physically. I have mental problems anyway, makes me sound like a nutter, but I don't cope with stuff as well as normal people.

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Can't know what exactly? Re your last point-good old common sense again.