to be pissed off that Chris Brown is all over the bloody charts?

[glovesoflove]

Seems to say to boys "you can beat up your girlfriend (she probably deserved it anyway) and everyone will make excuses, feel sorry for you and it won't affect you at all and you can carry on being a giant pop star so why would it matter if you do it, you plumber/accountant/whatever"

i turn of the radio when his songs come on, same with N-Dubz and eminem and the like. I'm sure there are others i listen to that have done similar but that we dont know about.

YANBU - I feel the same whenever I see/hear him which does seem to be quite a lot at the moment.

What makes it annoying is that he never seemed all that apologetic, it was more a case of feeling sorry for himself and the effect it was going to have on his career. Also, a lot of comments were made by young (female) fans of his that "she probably deserved it" etc etc which I think he should have publically disagreed with.

God I can't stand him. And anyone else who has collaborated with him too - just seems to be condoning what he did

I totally agree and was thinking it myself the other day. As someone who had her nose broken and eyes blacked by an ex when I was 19 (pretty sure I didn't ask for it!) it's surprising how quickly people 'forget' it happened. Mutual friends of ours did so in a matter of months!
Anyone who works with him has lost my respect big time as it's as though they are condoning his behaviour - it wasn't even that long ago that it happened! :(

Who is he?

YANBU - It makes my blood boil and I didnt even like him in the first place.

I suppose the only consolation (if you can call it that) is that Rihanna is and always will be much more successful than him.

Chris Brown is the 'singer' who beat up Rihanna after they had an arguement.

He beat up his girlfriend, Rhianna. It's not about the song lyrics.

I'm not taking issue with his songs, I don't even know what they're about. What I am taking issue with is that his videos are on tv, his songs on the radio etc, when he has done something bloody awful. Do you think it's ok to play Gary Glitter records? They aren't about raping underage girls, they're "just a song"? Would it be ok for Peter Sutcliffe to top the charts?

Well, Elvis was a shit to women too and a drug addict. Tom Jones a serial philanderer. Sid Vicious shot his missus and Sex Pistols songs are still popular. Where will it end? He was 19 he made a mistake. Would you want your son writted off at such a young age? Its possible he had violence in his childhood for all you know... which does not condone anything. But there are always cause and effects.

Ok You'd think it was fair enough then for a teacher or police officer to get their job back and get held up as someone to aspire to be like after such a conviction?

I thought you were a social worker, don't you support CRB checks for those in your field? If you found out the guy at the next desk had a conviction for posessing child porn would you say "he did the sentence, the crime ends there"?

It's the same principle. And Chris Brown is still on probation. The Home Office wouldn't let him into the UK.

If my son did that I wouldn't think he deserved any favours. What if he'd done that to your daughter? Would you be so sorry for poor ickle Chris Brown then?

I dont feel sorry for him and he is not working after possessing child porn but carry on subdividind the issue until it does not even resemble the facts if you please.

Where does child porn come into this OP???

I'm with you on this one gloveoflove. How a sports presenter can lose his job for making sexist comments off air but Chris Brown gets to keep earning buckets with his shit songs and influencing young people after beating the crap out of his girlfriend is beyond me.

Agree Altinkum.

I have just had the same conversation with a teen (daughter of a friend) on facebook. She had posted a link up and every time she does it I have to say something . Just try to explain she should be supporting Riyanna and not buying or supporting him at all. When it all first came out all the teen girls were saying how Riyanna probably deserved it WTF?? Stupid little girls wish they would stop buying his music so he can crawl back under whatever rock he came out of - scumbag

Oh well, my first AIBU, who would have guessed that thinking there should be negative consequences if you commit violent crime was unreasonable?

He's working after committing a violent assault. And it's not that he's working, it's that he is a pop star, therefore a hero to lots of children, who know what he has done. There are plenty of talented young men without convictions for beating their girlfriends who could be taking up the airtime Brown is getting.

Gloves, I would put money on it that you own a record or a dvd with a person featuring who has done similar, you just dont know it.

And razors - why dont you let young people make up their own minds. They are allowed an opinion and the more you tut tut the more they are likely to go against what you are saying.

So if anyone has ever committed a crime then they should never work again OP?
What should they do then?

This worries me a lot more than him personally.

I'll concede my child porn analogy was dodgy but I was challenging altinkum's assertion that crime is "done with" once you've been to court, because that's not the case is it?