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To Think This Is Vile and Abusive?

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midori1999 · 08/02/2011 21:56

There's a debate on smacking on another forum I use and one of the posters has said, amongst other things, her parents used to put mustard on her tongue as a child as a punishment.

Am I over reacting in thinking this is on a par with washing a child's mouth out with soap and actually abusive?

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 08/02/2011 21:57

Do you really need to ask?

Ohjustshootmenow · 08/02/2011 21:57

take a look at this has caused outrage globally

mutznutz · 08/02/2011 21:58

You can't really compare the past to the present. Things like that were totally acceptable then...like hitting children with sticks (the cane) at school.

Thankfully the world has evolved.

reelingintheyears · 08/02/2011 22:05

My Mum, put a bar of soap in my mouth once..

And just look what the cunting good it did.

Underachieving · 08/02/2011 22:05

Ohjustshootmenow that was truly truly awful to watch. I am so very heartbroken for that poor little boy.

Its is my understanding that UK law says a childs punishments should not be "cruel and unusual". I think mustard qualifies on both points.

Ohjustshootmenow · 08/02/2011 22:07

From what i understand that boy has been removed from that family thankfully!

HecateQueenOfWitches · 08/02/2011 22:08

If it was done now then the parents may well find themselves in trouble.

I once got hit with my dad's belt.
my best friend always got the slipper.

Times were different.

It was quite normal to choose to beat your child with stuff, sticking something nasty on their tongue would have been nothing at all.

I'm glad times have changed.

TheSecondComing · 08/02/2011 22:09

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ginmakesitallok · 08/02/2011 22:09

That youtube clip was appalling - I couldn't watch it. why oh why do people think that is acceptable? So so sad.

BootyMum · 08/02/2011 22:10

Ohjustshootmenow that is shocking.

Why the hell were they filming this abuse in the first place? Why did no-one intervene?

What a sick bitch Angry

aPixie · 08/02/2011 22:11

I couldn't watch past the hot sauce moment. Poor poor little boy Sad

Op, of course it's a vile thing to do.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 08/02/2011 22:11

My mum tried mustard on my dummy when I was a toddler. I bloody love mustard. Of course, she wasn't punishing me for kicks, just trying to get me to leave the dummy alone

Ohjustshootmenow · 08/02/2011 22:11

Again going by what i've been told about it apparently one of the daughters filmed it in the hope it would shock her mum out of doing that behaviour.

It always amazes me what parents will do under the guise of "discipline"

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midori1999 · 08/02/2011 22:12

I agree things like this were more accepted in the past, just like caning, belting etc. I asked as the poster thought it was perfectly normal and acceptable and an 'over reaction' to think that type of punishment was abusive.

That video is awful, it made me feel sick watching it and I have to admnit I had to stop watching before the end. It is beyond me how anyone can treat a child like that. That poor little boy. Sad

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xJulesx · 08/02/2011 22:13

Ohjustshootmenow, That is just pure wickedness, horrible nasty woman, poor boy.

Maud2011 · 08/02/2011 22:14

That was absolutely horrible... and the hot sauce just about the least horrible part of it. What an awful woman and can someone please explain what "pulling three cards" is when it's at home Confused.

So glad to hear the poor boy's been removed from that "home".

thisisyesterday · 08/02/2011 22:15

apparently her daughter filmed it... and thank god he has been removed.
i cried watdching that. i can't believe people do this to children :(

Ohjustshootmenow · 08/02/2011 22:16

as i've said it's just disgraceful what people do under the guise of discipline, horrible.

JaneS · 08/02/2011 22:17

The 'oh, times were different' argument always bothers me. It sounds almost as it we're saying it was ok back then?

It bothers me as my parents used to smack us and bang our heads against the wall as punishments which they saw as totally normal and fine. I can't get them or my brothers to understand that this would now raise a few eyebrows and is not considered ok, because they simply reply that it was considered fine back then and 'did us no harm'.

maxybrown · 08/02/2011 22:17

Her daughter filmed it - not the show!

Serendippy · 08/02/2011 22:18

Am now crying after watchng that. Only watched up to him starting to cry, the sound ripped my heart in two.

Stase · 08/02/2011 22:21

Truly frightening clip. You can see that she felt fully justified in her punishment. Couldn't watch all of it, but glad he's apparently away from that freak of a mother.

I know I had the odd slap on the back of the legs for emphasis as a child, which I really can't see as abuse. In fact I think a little smack in frustration is a vastly different thing to the cold administration of systematic physical punishment, be it smacking, caning, mustard or hot sauce {shock]. The psychology of the parent doing it is different IMO.

RailwayChild · 08/02/2011 22:21

omg
I feel so upset watching that
What a foul foul woman

BootyMum · 08/02/2011 22:23

It was truly horrible. I also could only watch up to his starting to cry in earnest.

It made me so angry, I wanted to smack her Angry

herbietea · 08/02/2011 22:24

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