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to think that anynoe who believes in star signs is a complete numpty?

678 replies

bettybosseye · 01/02/2011 18:52

I mean it's so clearly such a great stinking heap of horse shit, how can anyone actually believe it?
Another mum at playgroup today was telling me what kind of personality my 9 month old will have based solely on her star sign.
All pleasant enough stuff but she actually believed it.
What's wrong with people?

OP posts:
balloonballs · 02/02/2011 15:03

Lamora,
you know there's supposed to be more flower essence than brandy in the mix don't you?

Lamorna · 02/02/2011 15:03

It's not a faith-I don't have a belief, I just know that it works in giving personality. I wouldn't live my life by it, I do what I want to, when I want to do it-even if the signs were not good! Best not to even look.

wukter · 02/02/2011 15:05

Everything is designed to fleece money out of people ffs. It's the system we operate under. Some people have found a soothing crystal-sparkly way of selling comfort to people. Others open pubs and do it that way. Jeez open your minds some of you as to teh way the world works (ha! irony)

wukter · 02/02/2011 15:07

Sorry to hear you'e sick Cote but it's not really an excuse to be so scathingly rude. That's also a form of smugness and arrogance to.

PlentyOfParsnips · 02/02/2011 15:08

how is 'just knowing' that something works, in spite of a complete and utter lack of scientific evidence, not a faith or a belief?

Lamorna · 02/02/2011 15:11

Because I would agree with all the people who are saying it is bollocks! I don't have a faith or belief in something that doesn't make any sense! I just know that it works but I'm not going to base a faith or belief on something that works, when I don't know why! It all goes in with reincarnation and learning lessons which I don't believe in.

Lamorna · 02/02/2011 15:14

If I was a good astrologer I would be able to tell OP how her DD will grow up, which jobs will attract her, how easy she will find relationships etc. (I only dabble)

seeker · 02/02/2011 15:18

"Everything is designed to fleece money out of people ffs"

Not everything is designed to prey on the vulnerable, insecure and "hard of thinking" and cynically exploit them by peddling nonsense to them.

wukter · 02/02/2011 15:25

I think you'll find that it is seeker.

Walk into any supermarket, for example. Or pub. Or make up counter. Or... well you get my drift.

Lamorna · 02/02/2011 15:25

I am offering to tell people why they think it is rubbish for free and no one has taken me up on it!

Lamorna · 02/02/2011 15:26

I don't need a time and place of birth-birth date would be enough.

Lamorna · 02/02/2011 15:28

However I'm off to do some work, I will look back later.

seeker · 02/02/2011 15:35

I am going to buy some milk, some bread and some cheese in a moment. And I am going to pop into the vet to buy some wormer for the cats. Oh, and I am also going to pay for my child's after school care and buy some sellotape.

I don't think any of these transactions are exploitative - but I suppose I could be more stupid and gullible than I thought/

PlentyOfParsnips · 02/02/2011 15:36

Thing is, wukter, if I go to a pub and buy a drink, there's actual real alcohol in it. If I buy food at the supermarket, it has actual, real nutrients in it (mostly Grin) and if I buy a lipstick, it will actually, really change the colour of my lips - other people will be able to see it and everything!

If I pay for crystal healing or astrology or homeopathy, what am I actually buying?

teej · 02/02/2011 15:39

YANBU re astrology. but two things that other people have referred to in this thread:

  • i went to a "fortune teller" when i was 18, it was a fun thing with friends, not to be taken seriously. but darn me every single thing she said has come to pass over the past two decades. And one of the things she had predicted came true just last month as she had said it would (hard to go into without giving tmi). not fluffy stuff, a lot about things that would happen to various people i care about. and i quite deliberately did not allow myself to be "led" or talk lots during the session (had started studying psychology by then Wink). i have been to another fortune teller since, at a corporate party. total load of fooey. i have no explanation for the former, but the latter certainly belongs in the shyster category as i would guess most of them do.
  • when ds was born the maternity ward was in chaos. total production line, even though the hospital in question is quite well resourced. i asked after why it had been so bad and quite a few of the midwives/nurses said "it's always crazy on a full moon, we don't know why". no proof of anything at all, but interesting
CoteDAzur · 02/02/2011 15:40

Just date of birth and you will know all about what a person is made of, where she has been and where she is going? Shock

So, there are only 365 possible horoscopes in the world. There are only 365 types of people of identical personalities, backgrounds, and fortunes.

And you wonder why people are not taking you seriously here Hmm

balloonballs · 02/02/2011 15:41

Alcohol and make up is a far cry from "everything" now isn't it wukter.

I'll even give you tobacco to be fair. Sorry to say but if you open your mind far enough your brains will fall out.

PlentyOfParsnips · 02/02/2011 15:44

OK Lamorna, I have PM'd you with my DOB and will wait for you to tell me why I think astrology is rubbish even though I already know why I think it's rubbish, it's because there is a complete and utter absence of scientific evidence.

balloonballs · 02/02/2011 15:44

Teej, anecdotes do not data make. Interesting is a very subjective term alsoWink

I'm gonna get done for copyright at this rate.

offschoolagain · 02/02/2011 15:45

Years and years ago I went on holiday with a nmber of people i had never met before. At the time I had one of those scarves with coins sewn round the edge and some one said I looked like a gypsy. Next night I offered to read fortunes -palms and whatnot. I was totally bowled over not only by the number of people who wanted me to do it, but also by how much they wanted to believe what I said. All of which was fiction. Since then I cannot believe in any fortune telling stuff whatsoever, ditto crystals, etc etc etc, and given everyone in my family is the same star sign except for me, and all are totally different and undergoing totally different experiences, I reckon that is a load of fiction too. That'll be a tenner, thanks.

UntamedShrew · 02/02/2011 15:47

Lamorna - here's a challenge for you. please do 24/3/09

I had twins that day, I'd be interested to see how it works as to me they are like chalk and cheese. But what do I know, I am only their mother!

MardyBra · 02/02/2011 15:48

Just joined the thread and really enjoying Cote D'Azur's pasting analysis of the arguments.

MardyBra · 02/02/2011 15:48

I have a 23 day menstrual cycle. Do I have a different moon?

seeker · 02/02/2011 15:49

Untamedshrew - they were obviously born on either side of a cusp.

CoteDAzur · 02/02/2011 15:50

By the way, DS is one star sign and not the next only because his elCS could not be scheduled on the four days of Grand Prix. Apparently, operating rooms are to be available at all times, in case F1 drivers manage to wrap themselves around trees all at the same time. (You would think the maternity ward would be exempt from this rule but it was not.)

Thank you, Mr Ecclestone, for determining the character of my lovely DS? Hmm