To think that really boring people see highly creative people as children?

[Heroine]

I AM JUST SAYING..

I had a weird thing happen, I am quite creative and like decorative stuff and cool quirky things and someone who I thought was on the same wavelength gave me a real dressing down when I showed her some cool japanese quirky notebooks I bought - with that sort of stylised fluffy, hearty, pop=art style, she sais the thought it was childish and unprofessional. (!). i thought it was just fun..

It made me think that all the people who make the rules about what is 'professional' are really just all the really dull tedious unimaginative types and that is why they think creativity is likely to diminish performance - because they can't handle it and it freaks their boring little heads out.

(I know this might seem to conflict with my 'women who run fluffy novelty businesses' thread, but I'm just saying (and not explaining well) that the dull people seem to never be interested in anything, and seem to make the rules, and the people who went wild and got into interestingb things in their teens and 20s but had to droip them because the dull run the world, are seen by the dull people as 'only having childish ideas'.
It seems a bit sad - does anyone see what I mean?? It seems to be getting worse as women have more serious jobs - I get it but as I'm a bit 'consultant-ish' I can ride above it, but it seems that somewhere there is a book that says you can't be clever or get things done or reliable unless you think and dress in a dull boring way.. and that makes no sense to me..

sorry for going on, but I think there somethin in my uncomfortableness at being thought of as childish when I think of myself as an adult who has some sense of humour and creativity.

Am I being unreasonable??

"do you really think that really creative work is done by people in libraries in 1960s worksuits with grey pencils and white A4"

You have such a narrow mind. You really do. It's like a twelve-year-old's idea of what "creative" people do and how they do it ... it's so fixed.

Paring things back to plain, good lines and making them work can be, in your words, "really creative" too. Beautiful, groundbreaking design is often all about simplicity. You keep mentioning Apple .. there you go. I bet nobody there uses ten-a-penny Japanese-printed kids' stationery. Or if they do, they're probably not defining themselves by it.

mutznutz you have obv not been to an office recently!

Connection a bit dodgy here, sorry for double post.

mutznutz you have obv not been to an office recently!

Again...yes I have?

It's not a helpful personal question anyway. If the answer was 'No' you'll be insulted (as you seem to struggle with other motivation than your own) and if the answer is 'yes' you'll be pissed off that I've noticed, so... not helpful. It wasn't intended to be helpful, so I don't mind so much.

Look, seriously, something isn't dull or interesting just because you say so. I find museums fascinating. You might find them dull. It's all about perception - neither of us would be wrong.

Nothing wrong with a double Martini...could quite do with one now

WEll, you are perhaps being unreasonable. You are definitely in teh wrong job.

no!!!!! i SAID that having a notepad that had cool japanese designs was regarded by someone else as childish when i thought it was cool..

agree, coldtits talks a lot of sense

So the relevance of your thread title is...?

Surely it's all down to personal taste in notebooks, not whether a person is boring or not or has creativity or lack it.

If she thinks it is childish that you like things that are more often bought by children, why would you automatically assume she is being critical of your creativity? It just doesn't equate somehow.

Fwiw I am creative but don't go for fluffy, cartoonish type things. So I must be both creative and boring.

Yabu.

I find people who get interested in things interesting I find people who are dull.. dull...

So they thought it was childish, you thought it was cool...why did you give it any more thought?

OP you sound like you haven't let go of a 'school' mindset where the world is divided into boring grown ups and fun kids, where the boring adults want you to conform for the sake of it and breaking away from plain things and school uniforms is a sign that you're really cool.

The real world of real adults is a bit different, cool is what you do not how much you deviate from some imagined 'uniform' of clothes or plain decor.

(Are you also convinced that it's going to be SO much more exciting when people like YOU are old because you're going to be SO much more fun than the boring grown ups who are old now?)

I do think the person you talk about in your OP was perhaps rude to you, not sure you need to prove that people who don't like childish stationery are dull and boring to show that though.

what is the 'personal question' all about? its weird...

yanbu at all..i love anything quirky and kitsch..many folks say i'm childish..but i also like to think that i have a brain (most the time!) and have managed successful businesses in the past.

I am very keen on all of that Japanese stuff. I particularly like all of those little stacking food boxes with strange animals on the top. I also like pens with springs on the top that have little animals balancing on them. I am not in the least bit creative in the art/design/drama/music sense.

Many creative people are very dull. Many uncreative people are very interesting.

Once I got past 'i am just saying' (er what) I just laughed as boring old Dh is sat in his boring black trousers and beige tee, and a boring old dell laptop looking very- dull designingon CAD a 100 foot carnival float which will ahve lots of money spent on it, be fully lit with DM X systems and maybe even win a cup or two

so only things you're interested in are interesting?

wow.

I find anyone who's passionate about anything interesting, even if the subject itself is mind numbing to me, it's the fire in the belly that's interesting, even if it's for shoes and handbags...

I don't actually think the world of adults is that different from school actually - there are still a core of dull people who get freaked out by the bright people who creep up to the authority figures, the rebels, the smoking clique, the clever people who are kept down, the theiving bastards who think they are playing the game for themselves, and the people who never make it in on time and keep getting 'expelled' (fired)..

Ok, so not Finnish...Hungarian? Italian? Brazilian? Australian?

I really don't understand what you are talking about. Adult life isn't like that, and school is only like that in US tween movies.

sorry there should be a comma in the 'core of dull people, freaked out byt the bright people, who creep to authority...(sorry!!)

Actually OP from everything you've posted on this thread...

I'm thinking you come across as one of those annoying people who think they're really 'mad' and 'quirky' but in actual fact are as dull as shit

You know the type of people who say "Oh come out with us, we're absolutely bonkers..mental the lot of us..you'll have such a laugh" And in reality you spend the evening talking about mundane shit..but that's ok cos you wear pink fluffy slippers to the pub.

You probably have fridge magnets that spell the words "You don't have to be mad to live here, but it helps"...again, normally found in the houses of the dullest people - but they might have a quirky little garden gnome pulling his pants down to show his arse...so that's 'ok' in their eyes