children standing up in trolleys in supermarkets.....

[kelway]

just wondered how other people felt when they see a women pushing a trolley around a supermarket with their sprog standing in the trolley? my point is that i would never have allowed my dd to do that as that is where you/other people put your food (there could be dogs muck on their shoe). have seen this more and more lately. i can understand the odd situation that might require this ie ill child too tired to walk or something tragic like that but the kids i have seen look fine (if not a little spoilt) to me

GetOrfMoiLand - that is seriously horrible. Why, why, why would anyone do that?

I know. DP went 'oi' at the bloke (who scampered off) who did it and went to tell a member of staff.

Trolleys are not made to carry children in the basket area, so therefore are not designed for the safety of children being carried in the said basket area.
Have you never seen the big brother pushing the standing younger brother around at top speed? there are huge iron legs holding the buildings up in the middle of the ailse and displays of wine bottles that could be crashed into causing damage to both the child and the merchandise. I just think it's irresponsible even if you remove the possibility of dog crap on shoes which can be there in fragments even if you can see or smell it.

Oh and I also like dogs

Btw, may I commend you, Pan, on an extraordinarily unexpected introduction of the word "nihilistic"?

Though, what with GetOrf's anecdote, I am now thinking of supermarkets as vortices of rule-lessness.

Thank you. such an underused word. I've got lots of them!!

The olive spitting fella is a relative of that woman who put a cat in a wheelie bin perhaps? A sad little triumph over a world that has spurned them?

I have OCD and so have luckily always avoided unwraped goods in the supermarket. Someone's BREATH on an olive is enough to make me pass out.

Oddly a shitty shoe isn't as disturbing.

Kelway - thanks for your acknowledgement. You're welcome for a theoretical tea/coffee round here anytime and you can keep your shoes on

I am a dog owner, but border on rabid about dog poo that is left behind by the way. No argument there!

hi motherjack, i keep thinking about your response, i feel quite bad that i hurt you with my comment, i certainly wasn't aiming my comment at people with an obviously genuine reason for doing it, sorry again. btw i live in a house where people keep their shoes ON, we also do not have plastic covering over our sofa's :)

wimple' - i used to have mild ocd, i used to have to keep looking under the bed before i could leave the room and i also went through a phase of having to keep checking inside a bedroom draw. i think this went on for about a year or so but i somehow managed to get out of the habit but i do remember how hard it was.

pROBABLY WRONG THREAD BUT i HAVE TOOTHACHE OOPS and may or may not have been swilling my mouth more than is really necessary with whiskey and |I can't remember what I was going to say now, but mark my words it would have been very profound!

You didn't hurt me Kelway - I'm long past that. I admit, I used to think it myself to a point when DS was a baby, but then I had the concept of "walk a mile" brought far closer than I could have imagined.

I believe it is only experience (either direct or by proxy) that makes us understand, or at least tolerant

I go to the supermarket every weekend with 3yo DTs.

Am a bit at the notion of having enough time to notice what other people's DCs are doing and even more at the idea of being censorious about it.

I dont care. My child got hurt very badly by someone hitting him with a trolley once and I feel he is safer contained (until I start loading up)

I was picking up a few things in Tesco once. Halfway through my 3 year old needed a wee. I already had my 1 year old in the official seat bit. So I took him for a wee (I could take my trolley into the accesible toilet bit).

While we were in there the toilet slammed shut on his willy - nothing major but he cried a lot and couldn't/wouldn't walk afterwards. He took a lot of consoling but I couldn't get him to walk nicely (I think he was in some pain)

I already had my one year old in the trolley and a trolley to push and I couldn't carry him and do that. So I popped him in the trolley where he curled up in foetal position looking sorry for himself.

Tried to then go back into Tesco to finish the shop (2 more bits and I was ready to checkout) but the security guard wouldn't let me go back through unless he walked.

He wouldn't walk, so I had no choice but to empty my trolley at her feet and leave the shop.

I haven't been back. That was about a year ago, I no longer shop at Tesco.

She said it was "health and safety". I told her if she was particularly concerned with health and safety she might want to get the loos checked out!

The only thing I can see as a problem is that the child might get hurt by falling out. I don't let mine stand up, but they've sat in the trolley before.

After dd (2) managed to stand up in the seat part of her trolley when my back was turned for a second- no harnesses in lidl- I decided it was safer to put her in the trolley itself.

In my experience, there is quite often a reason the child is in the trolley instead of walking. Special needs, injured willy, child very big for his age and can't fit in the small part, child is a "runner", etc.

Unless you know the child, you're really not in a position to judge.

It is a pet hate of mine.
I think it weird that every time there is a thread about wearing shoes in someone else's house (something I like to do)there is an outcry that it is unhygienic and yet it is quite OK to stand in a trolley! Very odd.

Please. I saw a man pick his nose and then grope each of the baguettes in turn in Sainsburys in Fulham. A child sitting in a trolley rather than running about is not a problem.

I think that anyone who is bothered by this sort of thing probably isn't busy enough.

oh yes and people coughing all over the fruit and veg.

I let my son ride in the trolley because he often will not go into the seat. So either he races around the supermarket knocking things off shelves and getting in the way of everyone and likely to run off or he sits in the main body of the trolley. He is very strong, very heavy and sometimes I cannot get him into the seat without a proper fuss and, you know what, sometimes I just can't face the aggro.

yabu. if you arent happy for your child to do it fine, but for my son its a bit of fun.

saying that im refering to him hanging off the trolley on the bottom bit not being inside it.

YANBU, having seen a child fall from a trolley before and be badly hurt its the safety aspect not hygiene I would worry about.