to think men seem to have taken to MN in their droves recently......and I don't like it

[LadyBlaBlah]

Every thread I go on, there are men putting forward their opinion

I have enough of men in RL. AIBU thinking they should bog off to DN or go play the X Box or something?

ooh no, I think grandmothers, MILs etc. can pick up a lot from MN.

Isn't there a gransnet section now?

2rebbeca there are loads of non-parent based topics on MN: relationsips, mental health, feminist to name a few.

CBA reading all of the thread. Too much effort. Have any of the feminists been on claiming that the menz are raping a site for females with their opinions?

I like the men I have encountered on here. UQD is like one of the girls anyway, for all of his in-depth knowledge of sleb goss' and I like Truckulent. He's a good sport. Don't mind ShirleyKnot either.

"Have any of the feminists been on claiming that the menz are raping a site for females with their opinions?"

Oh yes, definitely

we'd have more men on here if there were more of you, bupcakes

Not sure how to take that!

I think she's calling you a bloke

well, UNquietdad has gone on and on throughout this thread about how the word "mansplaining" doesn't need to exist because he - a man- doesn't see the need for it, in fact has never come accross the phenomenon himself- which is proof that women cannot have experienced mansplaining themselves (not sure about the logic there, but anyway.,..)

What he really wants, I mean, what he would really like is for lots of MNers to say
"yes, you're right, there is no need for that word. You are quite qualified to pass comment on the experiences of women, despite not being a woman yourself and blah blah"

But we don't, because he's not right.

So to me, he's not one of the girls. At all

I haven't been a bloke in over eight years, thankyouverymuch

sakura, I have no idea wtf you are on about.

forgot you haven't read the thread, my posts must seem random lol!

I'm not one of the girls. I might actually be a man. But with a vagina. I think my brain is male. I certainly have a sense of entitlement and think I'm pretty bloody amazing. I also have a hairy back

it wouldn't make you immune to being mansplained to.

it's the vagina, you see

I mansplain. We could have a mansplain off! I wonder what happens if you just keep getting more and more patronising? Would one of us eventually pat the other on the head and go 'Aw, bless'.

I would like to suggest condesplaining

Explaining in a condescending manner to one who you consider as less than yourself in a number of ways.

Because as you have described the phenomenon it certainly exists and needs a word, but no part of it requires a penis.

Ooh, nice Trillian.

If you continue to call it mansplaining and say that it is only something that men do to women then you will need 3 more words:

for men doing it to men (DP puts it under the bracket of trying to 'alpha' somone - which women do too but not as much)

for women doing it to men

for women doing it to women

and possibly some more for a man/woman doing it to a group of people, which may be male or female or mixed.

ooh - alphasplaining, yes, I like that, I've seen it happen. It's not a pretty sight.

I am explaining this to you not because I want you to understand it (the aditional purpose of explainaing something) but because I want to demonstrate how I am so much better than you.

Whoever was worried that having some men here would mean that more, twattier, men would arrive - don't be ridiculous.

If a twattish man turned up and started being twatty all over the board, they would get roundly shouted down, by male and female posters alike.

I've never seen women doing it to men, except in the area of cleaning and cooking - you know, the shit work that doesn't have any status anyway.

Oh and at work with a very insecure female boss talking down to a man. But I think what's missing from that scenario, is the entitlement aspect - the idea that you are entitled to be listened to purely because you are superior to that person. In the context I saw it happen, the woman was abysmally patronising not because she felt entitled, but precisely because she wasn't secure about her right to be explaining something to a man.

I lime condesplaining. But only mansplaining will do when it is a man doing it because he is a man and thus feels superior and better-qualified.

Lime? Like, obviously.

Trillian, that was me 'being ridiculous'.

You're postulating a single twattish man turning up. I'm imagining several at once, which added into the already growing male contingent would be less easy to shout down.

The problem has never become exponential thus far, however it could.