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In being surprised that apparently 98% of UK women under 25 have no pubic hair at all?

849 replies

Longstocking2 · 04/01/2011 23:52

Is that true?

A friend who is a practice nurse says she presumes it's just a fashion. None of her women under 25 who come for smear tests have any pubic hair.. all shaved, shorn, waxed to nada.

Obviously that's fine but it seems a little universal to me. Aren't there any rebels out there?
Is it just for the boys they do it?

Does the image not come from porn originally?

{shock]
Confused
would love to be enlightened!
Clearly I'm over 25 Grin

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SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:35

Enhanced they are from now on then, they certainly are a huge improvement Grin

Nobody has ever corrected me over it before. I've always said augmented and no bugger has ever bothered to tell me I'm wrong ffs.

WilfShelf · 05/01/2011 23:40

Yes to the Ruskin thing: it's another version of the vagina dentata myth. Of course the women who do it think they are choosing it; but they don't see the cultural edifices that normalise such choices.

It's horrific. I have no idea how to educate my boys to think differently about women's bodies but I'd be fucking horrified if one of them ended up denaturing and devaluing women so much.

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:42

Oh ffs. Why can't we just be accepted as women who prefer to not be hairy for ourselves?

Why can't it be part of personal freedom and choice?

Why does everything have to have a bloody agenda?

I whiten my teeth too. Shall I throw that open for discussion? Or shall we just conclude that I am vain, shallow and stupid and a disgrace to the feminine world?

BeerTricksPotter · 05/01/2011 23:42

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Libero · 05/01/2011 23:42

WilfShelf, why not just educate your boys to realise that women come in all shapes and sizes (pubic hair included) and should be accepted in all their beauty (depilated/undepilated)?

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:44

I am sorry about that BT. Really, I am. Actually, I've ended up the fool as I got it totally wrong.

WilfShelf · 05/01/2011 23:44

Because that just isn't a plausible explanation. It simplifies individuality and ignores millenia of social phenomena in which life is not just about individuals choosing for themselves. I know it is uncomfortable to hear that you're not entirely in control, but that's how it is.

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:46

Well it's good enough for me. I'm too simple to need an agenda. And I am wholeheartedly happy about that.

Also off to bed.

BeerTricksPotter · 05/01/2011 23:46

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wukter · 05/01/2011 23:47

Sarah do teenage girls really trot around your house naked????

Mypombearisveryold · 05/01/2011 23:51

My dh has obviously not seen the porn that makes him boak at female pubes. He gives better than he gets. But they are lovely John Frieda shampooed and conditioned...

What about the rest of it though, the legs/pits/in my case toes.

TBH my dh has never commented on any of these things or my bush, even if it is 6ft in diameter.

But I still remove the hair from my legs, pits and toes. Does it come from our mothers?

KalokiMallow · 05/01/2011 23:51

So none of us could possibly be doing it because it makes sense to us?? None at all? Hmm

Do you know what really really winds me up, this bloody minded arrogance. Just because someone chooses something that you do not like, does not make them brainwashed into it. Hmm You are not the only person able to think for yourself!

If someone wants to come along and explain to me exactly where along the line my lack of genital hair had anything to do with porn, then fine, I'll concede that I was influenced. Except even on the exceptionally slim chance you could, that still wont prove the utterly stupid idea that all women remove their pubic hair because of it.

How anyone can claim to speak for a huge number of women - particularly whilst doing the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "lalalalala" to what those women actually think - is a joke.

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:56

Yes wukter. It's just me and the DDs and I guess they feel comfortable. I have an open house policy here as I would rather know what the DDs are up to than not and it seems the nicest and least controlling way of ensuring I know what they are doing.

And it makes them incredibly popular with their friends as they know they can always hang out here. Which can't be a bad thing.

expatinscotland · 05/01/2011 23:57

Apparently not, Kaloki. We're all just pawns in the hands of Da Man, who wants nothing to do but fuck us (with no pubes, of course).

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:57

BeerTricks I promise I will never post in Feminism. Especially about my breasts.

I'd be too fecking scared to for starters Confused

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 05/01/2011 23:58

too.

ffs.

Bed >>>

wukter · 05/01/2011 23:59

It seems odd to me, but I think I wish you were my friends mum when I was a teen. (I'd probably slip on a vest & knicks though!)

Kaloki there have been LOADS of posts acknowledging peoples own reasons. But the thread is about the general trend, which l;ooks for sociological reasons for the change in the last 30 years. So you're getting wound up over nothing.

BaroqinAroundTheChristmasTree · 06/01/2011 00:00

I thought some theorist reckon it was probably the mentrastion that freaked Ruskin out wasn't it?

anothermum92 · 06/01/2011 00:00

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wukter · 06/01/2011 00:00

First bit to Sarah, btw.

KalokiMallow · 06/01/2011 00:02

Most of the posts I've read on here wukter have been people sneering at other people's reasons. Or telling them they are wrong.

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 06/01/2011 00:03

TBH wukter I'd feel more comfortable if they had at least knickers on. The first time freaked me and I still don't really know where to look. They all seem so relaxed with their bodies compared to my generation. Mind you they also seem to wear about a quarter of what I wore. Even mid-winter.

Re reasons. Could it possibly be purely because we are just more 'body aware' now? The world is such a small place compared to even 20 years ago and changes happen faster now.

wukter · 06/01/2011 00:06

I saw analysis and opinion of the general trend.
Don't have to get defensive about other people's impersonal opinions if you are confident that your own actions are correct.

expatinscotland · 06/01/2011 00:06

'Most of the posts I've read on here wukter have been people sneering at other people's reasons. Or telling them they are wrong.'

YY, Kaloki. Now there's another thread about it.

It's like farting in the wind. If your opinion goes contrary to everyone keening over pubes, you're aggro.

SarahStrattonsBaubles · 06/01/2011 00:08

Oh and house. I've set out to try and make our home as much like I would have wished for when I was their age.

So they have the top floor with their bedrooms, a small bathroom and a study area. Where very little studying is done, incidentally.

The first floor is mine, my room, the bathroom and the guest room.

The ground floor is mostly formal. Dining room and sitting room. The kitchen is more of a living space IYSWIM. And the basement is the family room, lots of sofas, tv with the games things on and a big docking system for the ipods. DDs and their friends spend all of their time in the basement or in their bedrooms. At a push we can accommodate 20 people if they don't mind squishing up and using sofas and sofa beds. The house isn't as big as that sounds, it's just tall and narrow. The rooms are actually quite small.