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In being surprised that apparently 98% of UK women under 25 have no pubic hair at all?

849 replies

Longstocking2 · 04/01/2011 23:52

Is that true?

A friend who is a practice nurse says she presumes it's just a fashion. None of her women under 25 who come for smear tests have any pubic hair.. all shaved, shorn, waxed to nada.

Obviously that's fine but it seems a little universal to me. Aren't there any rebels out there?
Is it just for the boys they do it?

Does the image not come from porn originally?

{shock]
Confused
would love to be enlightened!
Clearly I'm over 25 Grin

OP posts:
chandellina · 05/01/2011 15:53

"When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.

Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest."

I'm no fan of Christine O'Donnell, the nutso failed Tea Party candidate in the U.S., but this quote from a (25-year-old) guy who had a one night stand with her is a real sign of the times.

melezka · 05/01/2011 15:55

cultural wossnames

MsKLo · 05/01/2011 15:55

I don't like the 'shaved chicken' look!

Like a bit of bush!

lol

MsKLo · 05/01/2011 15:56

fanjo!

i love that word!

SnowyGonzalez · 05/01/2011 16:11

Here you go dittany. Funnily enough I had been about to comment on how interesting it was that you and I were actually agreeing on a thread. Then you wrote the post below, which I found unnecessarily aggressive - 'machine-gunning', and thought better of it. I noted that Libero's next post was quite contrite, so it seemed to have the intended effect. So unnecessary to blast someone with a barrage, as what you're saying on this thread is absolutely right.

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" "oppressive opinions"

And once again bollocks. What the hell is an oppressive opinion? An opinion you don't like? I suppose that's one way to shut your opponent up, to try and pretend they are oppressing you. How does an opinion oppress you? Does it pay you less? sack you when you get pregnant? rape you? follow you home and frighten the life out of you? beat you up because your dinner isn't on the table? perform FGM on you? Those oppressive opinions have a lot to answer for don't they?"

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autumnberry · 05/01/2011 16:11

I am finding this thread depressing. Since when is it unclean, disgusting or unsexy to have pubic hair? Why the shame?

expatinscotland · 05/01/2011 16:20

'I think bald fannies, as well as those with topiared strips, look horrible and am really struggling to understand why anyone would choose to put themselves through this sort of weird grooming ritual when they don't absolutely have to.

By the way hair falls out during and after the menopause too so be patient and wait if that's the look you're going for.'

Because I like it (never gone bald, but I remove all hair on the undercarriage and wax the top, too). I like it that way, I always have, I like sex that way, I like how I feel that way.

I also like how my hair feels and looks if I keep it in a bob so I have it cut every other month, too.

I like how my hair looks without all the grey in it so I dye it, too. In the past I dyed it all sorts of colours. Because I liked it.

Some people get tattos or piercings because they like it.

I don't want to wait till menopause for hair to fall off. I like to maximimse feeling good about myself now. I've always been like that. I may not make it to menopause. I might die.

But if I do I'll know I enjoyed my body to the max exactly how I saw fit.

I enjoyed attracting men for attention and sex because, well, I liked attention and sex.

And if I went out with a guy, yes, I nearly always had sex with him right away, but if there were back hair during foreplay, he didn't make the cut, much less to partnerhood. I don't like really hairy blokes. Never have. It doesn't do it for me. Same went for small cocks or men who wouldn't perform oral sex or who only fancied sex in the missionary position.

dittany · 05/01/2011 16:21

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melezka · 05/01/2011 16:27

Dittany's opinions are strong and forcefully worded and can take you aback - i've been on the receiving end before - but actually the post you're referring to was, I thought, quite a good way of putting the relative perspective into the freedom/repression argument.

alexpolismum · 05/01/2011 16:29

expatinscotland - it's nice for you that you like all those things about your appearance. I also like to keep all my pubic hair. And I prefer sex with it. We are all different, with different preferences. So why is society less accepting of my preferences in this regard?

expatinscotland · 05/01/2011 16:32

Who knows, alexis? I can't say I ever cared. If someone wants to go without depilating, so? Lots of body hair just isn't for me, for myself or a sexual partner. I can't think of a bigger physical turnoff for me than facial hair, except a hair back or arse or a small cock.

I've been told I'm shallow. But hey ho, people have standards of physical attraction. They always have, always will.

smallwhitecat · 05/01/2011 16:37

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alexpolismum · 05/01/2011 16:41

you see how different we are? Back hair doesn't bother me in the slightest and I quite like facial hair. You are right, of course, people will always have standards of physical attraction. But I find it sad that we're all expected to conform to the same standards.

expatinscotland · 05/01/2011 16:41

'discloses another disturbing trend, which is the growing acceptability amongst young men and women for men to talk about and treat their previous sexual partners with absolute contempt. I've noticed it beofre and it's quite chilling. You really wnat to say if a human being is that contemptible, what on earth does it say about you that you went to bed with them? Vile little people.'

People have always done that. I didn't go to bed with people whom I found I didn't fancy physically. Big deal.

Others may have felt the same about me. Big deal.

The world's a big place with a lot of people in it.

expatinscotland · 05/01/2011 16:44

People talk about the other parent of their children with contempt here all the time, for example, because often enough, labelling them all manner of derogatory names, and often enough the name suits. They not only went to bed with that person but also had a child/children with them.

BreconBeBuggered · 05/01/2011 16:50

Well yes, expat, people fancy different things. But by the time we've got to the point of revealing a hairy/hairfree fanjo to a new sexual partner, surely there's more to us than a set of genitals?

smallwhitecat · 05/01/2011 16:51

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expatinscotland · 05/01/2011 16:52

'Well yes, expat, people fancy different things. But by the time we've got to the point of revealing a hairy/hairfree fanjo to a new sexual partner, surely there's more to us than a set of genitals?
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Maybe to some. :o

Libero · 05/01/2011 16:53

Thanks for trying to help me clarify SG. The reason my post following that was or came across as contrite is that I try not to respond to unnecessary ranting. If I were to waste my time to respond to that rant (which I shall do now), I would say that an opinion does not rape me, pay me less, sack me when I get pregnant, rape me, follow me home adnd frighten the life out of me, beat me up because dinner isn't on the table or perform FGM on me. However, opinions are what makes people think I am worth less and if people wish and try to enforce that view that I am worth less on me against my will, then they oppress me as much as someone who decides to rape me because they believe that my opinion that I do not deserve such treatment is worth nothing and their opinion is the sole valid one.

The issue I have is the way in which dittany persisted in telling me what I personally think in her post at Wed 05-Jan-11 13:38:06 - that particularly annoyed me. Insisting on telling me that I do not know my own mind and the way you have gone about it is what I find potentially/actually oppressive. Your opinion that depilation of body hair is due to a "blokes and porn industry" influence is not oppressive. I just consider it narrow-minded and misguided.

puddinghead · 05/01/2011 17:00

I had to do a little research being out of the picture in the realms of shaved pudenda - this bit may be of interest to the hairless is best brigade:

www.pamf.org/teen/health/skin/pubichairremoval.html

It is interesting to note that the lack of hair around the anus will make it impossible to pass gas silently.
Grin

TheFeministParent · 05/01/2011 17:04

If something changes massively all at once there is definitely an influence, however you dress it.

Libero · 05/01/2011 17:05

I forgot to say that you are also entitled to think it as it is your personal view. It's just that it does not apply to everyone, especially those who clearly say that it is not their sole or defining reason for depilating.

tyler80 · 05/01/2011 17:16

expatinscotland I'm sure I've just not understood but you say

"never gone bald, but I remove all hair on the undercarriage and wax the top, too"

Surely if you've taken all the hair underneath and waxed the top too there's none left, or am i missing something?

On the back hair thing, isn't that related to age too, would you expect a partner to get rid of back hair acquired after you were in a relationship with them?

scruffybird · 05/01/2011 17:19

It is interesting to note that the lack of hair around the anus will make it impossible to pass gas silently.

Thats why mine never make a sound, I must have one hairy anus...off to get mirror Grin

blindassasin · 05/01/2011 17:24

OP - I hate when i have my period and it gets stuck in the hair. I also prefer oral sex without hair, more skin on skin. It's not a feminist issue for me.. well other than that as a woman I have periods and cunilingus...

Does that help?

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