To think that young children shouldn't be in the pub on NYE?

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I single mum I know has put on Facebook that she's looking forward to going to the pub tonight to celebrate NYE with her DS(2.6)

I understand that everyone wants to go out on NYE but surely when you have DC's your priorities have to change. DH works in a pub and will be working tonight, and I have no intention of taking DS(also 2.6) out, he will be in bed at 8pm like he is any other night of the year!

Before I get flamed I'm not saying being a single mum makes her a bad mother or has any relevance, just that she doesn't have a DP to go out celebrating with, ANC obviously doesn't want to stay in by herself being boring!

Personally, i'm looking forward to some peace while DH is out, a glass of wine and turning up some curtains!

A pub on NYE is an adult environment, not a child friendly one. Plenty of people will be paying lots of money to babysitters so they can go out and enjoy themselves child-free, so I can understand they dont want other children around. Its nice to have an adult only night out sometimes!

I totally agree Mainly, there are all sorts of pubs. Some I'd have taken dd to at that age, and some I definitely wouldn't have.

Crikey, I spent many NYE at parties in pubs when I was a littlie and I turned out mostly ok... YABU, it's one night and you've no idea what she means by taking her LO to the pub/what kind of pub it is.

YABU its one night ,good on her I say

DC are also a good reason to leave a party early. If we have to stay awake to see in the NY (though why it can't manage it on it's own I don't know) I'd rather do it in my own house, preferably in my bed with DH. We will leave the party at 10ish pleading DS2's bedtime.

when you go abroad in the summer you see little ones in bars and restaurants till all hours.. some happily running around.. others happily asleep in buggies

whats the difference?

depends on the pub! I know of pubs I'd happily take DD to on NYE, and let her sleep in the buggy in the corner etc. others I wouldn't dream of doing that in.

I know a pub which the landlord and his young family live above, so on nights like this there's always kids around, it's lovely, other pubs are definitely adult only zones and so not suitable.

I'd imagine a village pub would be on the suitable end of the spectrum imo.

since the smoking ban I see no reason why a lot of pubs are less acceptable to take children to than private parties.

Children should not be in drinking establishments full stop.

Some parents let them run riot and dont give a monkeys.

Children should not be exposed to drinking establishments until they are 14 at least.

I didn't think children were allowed in pubs after a certain time in the evening. Or is that just in Ireland, where I'm from. There, I think all children have to leave by 7pm.

I don't have an issue with someone choosing to take their child to a pub if that's their choice.

What I do object to though is children in pubs AT ALL. It's an adult environment, and that's where I go to get away from children - certainly don't want to be exposed to someone elses snot-nosed brats running around

I think nye is for everyone and celebrating with family. If its a nice restaurant I don't think it matters. Most probably she will leave early anyway with the child. Who said nye was just for adults? That's rather discriminatory.

I think nye is for everyone and celebrating with family. If its a nice restaurant I don't think it matters. Most probably she will leave early anyway with the child. Who said nye was just for adults? That's rather discriminatory.

Yanbu.
Can I add that all these seasonal part-time drinkers should not be in the pub tonight.

:o at 'drinking establishments'. Are you Mary Whitehouse's younger sister ClassyDiva.

I don't think there's anything wrong with it and if you weren't judging her for being a single mum, why mention it in your OP?

mayor - funny, that's the sort of thing DH says when other people invade his local

'drinking establishments' I thought I had stepped back in time

What sort of pub is it?

Like many others have said if it is a quiet uncrowded pub why not?

Would a private house be a 'drinking establishment' if people are drinking? Or does it require a licence.

Yabu

Of course it depends on the pub. If she was going down Canal Street in Manchester to see in the NY with a toddler you would have a point.
But I think a small village pub is perfectly acceptable, as long as she is willing to change her plans should the child become tired/bored/disturbing others.

'I have no intention of taking DS(also 2.6) out, he will be in bed at 8pm like he is any other night of the year!'

This makes you sound a bit dull and routine bound tbh.
Would you be happy to take him to a party, if you had that option? Or is it 8 o clock bedtime whatever the occasion? What do you do when you go on holiday?

If you are at home can you babysit?

I wondered how long it'd be before someone said I was clearly judging her for being a single mum. I mentioned it for the reason stated at the end of my OP.

WRT kids running around until all hours on holiday, there isn't a difference, i judge them as well!

"funny, that's the sort of thing DH says when other people invade his local "

He's dead right too. Town has been a nightmare the last couple of weeks. If you're not willing to put in the hours on a cold Febuary night, you shouldn't be holding up the bar tonight waiting for your one Guinness and black of the year while trying to convince yourself and everyone else that you're a fun person and are actually having a brilliant time. You are not. Nobody has a good time in a pub or club on NYE. It's scientifically impossible.