To think it is wrong for a surrogate to have a child for two men?

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The men in question are Elton John and David Furnish.

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It feels wrong on so many levels.

I am really uneasy about a baby being separated from a mother.

What happens with regards to bfing and surrogacy?

Snowyweather, the mother is the person who brings the child up, not necessarily the same person who gave birth to it.

Women who have not carried a child (including adopted parents) can breastfeed.

Santa - I was not making a moot point I was just asking a question.

I suppose I still find the issue uneasy as to surrogate carrying a baby for 9 months and all that. You would assume there would be some bond. I fully realise the baby would bond with the new parents.

It's not unusual for surrogates to express milk for the babies and I have known women to induce lactation to breastfeed their children born through surrogacy (or adoption). Obviously E and D can't do the latter though.

but that makes it worse. because we're not in the US, we're in the UK, where the laws on surrogacy are more stringent.

I don't think anyone should be able to be paid as much as they desire to carry a child, biologically theirs or not.

And I don't think that anyone should be able to essentially buy a child. Yes not being able to have children is very sad. but sometimes that's life - at 62 and 48 this couple wouldn't have likely been able to conceive if they were heterosexual, and I wouldn't condone them buying a child then either, which is essentially what they have done.

I don't like this purely because it seems to be a fashion among celebrities at the moment to buy babies.

I am not surprised they had a surrogate, I am surprised it has taken this long. I knew someone who had carried surrogate twins for a hetrosexual couple. She had been approached by Elton and David back then it was late 2007, she said she refused, she said because of the fame issue and as they were not hetrosexual. So I assume that they have either had a lot of trouble finding a surrogate to carry for them or fertilisation trouble, for it to have taken all this time for them to have a baby. Congratulations to them in the new addition to their family.

I am happy for them as I know what it is like to be desperate for a baby. But in some ways i think a baby needs it's mother and father. It's difficult. I also am uneasy about 'buying a baby' not just in this case but in all cases. However, this will inevitably happen in a culture where you sell whatever you can to make money. However, i think Elton did originally want to adopt but he couldn't as he was too old amongst other things. All that matters now, though, is the baby being looked after well and brought up by loving parents and if EJ & his other half can do so then good luck to them.

not at that age no.

But for me it's not about age - it's about the surrogacy. I don't agree with that whether a couple is 60 or 20.

Thank you mumsinbeds for your answer.

I also have an issue with celebrity surogacy. Didn't SJP's surrogate mother get heaps of grief from press and other intrusive behaviour?

I don´t agree with 2 men having a baby.

I can´t help thinking that if it can´t be done naturally, then it shouldn´t happen.

I don't see a problem with 2 men adopting at all
I am not keen on surrogacy in general and do not consider it surrogacy if its the womans own egg, so in a way I do sort of see how the OP could be against this but not against a couple that includes one or 2 females using their egg in another woman's body. Or if its a donor egg and this womans womb, but her body AND egg (if that is the case) is a whole different thing. I am not keen on any kind, but would understand if the OP draws the line at egg AND womb surrogacy as opposed to couples own egg in surrogates womb - that at least would have some sort of logic and not be homophobic IMO

I think its a shame that they are not offering a better life to children who are in the care system already since they have the means to change lives drastically.

Two men raising a baby does not bother me in the slightest, but where the baby comes from and how it was made (to order?) matters IMO, well it should!

WannaBe, do you personally know of a surrogate in england who was paid 30k? I know lots and lots of surrogates and none have received anywhere close to that amount. I certainly didn't.

The surrogate lady I knew was not going at it from being homophobic, she refused Elton due to the potential difficulties the child would have in life coming from a same sex/famous couple.

I don't have a problem with same sex couples adopting a child but I can't help feeling that Annie is right that this child is an "accessory" who will be brought up by nannies and rarely see his daddies ...I hope I'm wrong.

so they did not qualify as adoptive parents but are allowed to do this?

doesn't that seem wrong?

Santa, I think they tried to adopt after being turned down by a lot of uk surrogates, from the dates available to me they tried uk surrogates first.