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to have been furious at pil for insisting on coming round mine for a dinner when ds1 is sooo poorly

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springchik · 19/12/2010 19:07

Loong story!We were supposed to be going round pil for dinner today and sil and her family were coming down from up north. Sil cancelled yesterday because of the snow. I would not have gone anyway because ds1 is really unwell. Mil knows this came round yesterday and ds barely stirred from the sofa or acknowledge her - very unlike ds1.

Anyway mil rang yesterday and said sil has cancelled so she'll come to us. I said ds is poorly and I have nothing in and she said dont worry we'll bring it all to you cooked it'll be like meals on wheels. Still I protested but she can be very intimidating

Anyway ds has been getting worse and worse. High temp lethargic not eating. During the night he was in agony with his ear and he had a high temp. This morning at 845 I insisted that dh rang mil and said she could not come as ds is too poorly. He suggested to her dh and ds2 came to them instead and cook the meal she has planned. He rang and suggested just that she wasnt too happy but dh said she agreed to it apparantly.

To cut along story short ds1 saw an oncall doctor at a dropin centre today he has an ear infection dr described it as red raw and said I'm not surprised he's been in such pain. Changed his prescription at noon when I got in and saw dh he said oh and by the way mum is insisting on bringing dinner to us! Shock Tried to ring pil at their home no reply rang her on her mobile and asked what on earth is going on and she hung up.

They came round at about 1 producing a cooked turkey (a week early eh) unpeeled potatoes, carrots, cauliflour, peas etc and announced these are to be cooked. I was furious she said what is your problem. I was so sangry I said i have a poorly boy in there and its rude isnt it to insist on coming round someone elses house turning up with food. She said thats it I'm going I dont have to put up with this. Ds1 cried and said dont go so she said dont worry Im not ggoing anywhere and she stayed and I cooked dinner we ate in the dining room while ds1 was poorly in the living room! Angry

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StarExpat · 19/12/2010 21:27

Maybe narkypuffin. But maybe not.

StarExpat · 19/12/2010 21:28

Well, she was in the kitchen asking him how he'd cook the roast pots... why didn't you just leave them to it and she would have to eventually help him if he's that helpless in the kitchen?

springchik · 19/12/2010 21:29

If she really wanted to help she could have had dh and ds2 round for dinner. Ds only wanted her there when she was there iyswim

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hatesponge · 19/12/2010 21:30

i dont understand how a grown man can't cook a few vegetables? (or stand up to his mother come to that)

StarExpat · 19/12/2010 21:30

Yes, but maybe she thought she would be doing you a favour by bringing you food??

Maybe she thought you just didn't want to make her go out of her way and wanted to do something nice for you?

Merlotmonster · 19/12/2010 21:32

YANBU...she sounds a complete dragon!!

NellieForbush · 19/12/2010 21:35

YANBU - Just trying to imagine turning up at someones house with raw food and the words "they need cooking", when they've said they don't want visitors.... WTF?!

However, you shouldn't have cooked it. Sounds like shes walks all over everyone and just did the same to you. You should have pointed the way to the kitchen and said

"I've been up all night with ds, going to have a lie down while you do that - thanks so much for your help"

springchik · 19/12/2010 21:41

Yes I should I did say you must be joking and mil said whats your problem when I told her in no uncertain terms so unlike me with my mil she has a temper and I've always found her intimidating she said thats it I'm going and at that point ds2 got really upset. When ds1 went to sleep I went in the kitchen and mil was asking dh things but also me tbh she had bought cooked stuffing etc but dh had put veg on etc. In my kitchen I found the whole thing surreal I couldnt believe it tbh!

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NellieForbush · 19/12/2010 21:46

Well I'm sure she offered to do the washing up anyway Hmm

springchik · 19/12/2010 21:48

Yes she did. However main point of all this is being missed. Iasked her not to come and she did insisted infact!

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NellieForbush · 19/12/2010 21:50

You're absolutely right, beyond that is just the icing on the cake.

narkypuffin · 19/12/2010 21:56

Apparently you should just be grateful that she totally disregarded what you wanted and had expressed to her.

MyLifeIsFeelingFestive · 19/12/2010 21:57

I haven't missed the point Springchik and I completely agree with you.

If I specifically told someone, whether that be my own mother, mil, or anyone, that I did not want them to come round because my son was ill and they took it upon themselves to do that anyway and expect to have a roast turkey with all the trimmings I'd be very unhappy. She wasn't being helpful, she was being selfish. YANBU

springchik · 19/12/2010 21:58

Thanks everyone! I'm now off to bed stayed up far too late for this thread and I'm shattered! Soo not ignoring anyone just tired.

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narkypuffin · 19/12/2010 22:00

You've got (some of) the MIL defenders on here who would say YABU if she'd have announced she was taking your DSs to live with her for the next month and torched your house on her way out the door. They're the flip side of MIL jokes.

If you'd have said SIL, friend or mother you'd have gotten a lot less shit.

TheHoneydragonsInTheIvy · 19/12/2010 22:04

I'm with you on that one narky and I am one of those people Grin

StarExpat · 19/12/2010 22:05

Oh please narky - this (for me at least) has nothing to do with it being an MIL. I would have the same reply if it was friend sister sil parent...etc. No, I don't think it's ok to show up uninvited I just think the intentions weren't malicious.

BigChiefOrganiser · 19/12/2010 22:06

This is the kind of thing my mother would do, but to be fair, she'd probably do the cooking and washing up.

However, you asked her NOT to come, and you were ignored, v.v. rude.

And this is why my mother doesn't have our address.

dearprudenceandtheivy · 19/12/2010 22:17

YANBU. You could have handled it a bit better, but I sympathise.

sarahitaly · 19/12/2010 22:18

It is really hard to stand up to a domineering, central, family figure, when her own brood have been trained from birth into believing this is normal and the people who protest at being rode roughshod over are the ones behaving oddly.

I put off any direct confrontation for a good few years, because of the high octane fall out and because, to some extent, I understood why my husband chose the path of least resistance (his mum could be mistaken for a steam roller when in "MIL hyper drive")

But for myself at least it was worth meeting every shove with a harder shove back in the end.

It wasn't nice or pretty, and it took a hell of a long, stressful, confrontational, shouty, "I KNEW you shouldn't have married her" time to reap dividends , but eventually she stopped seeing me as somebody she could muck about and got wary of taking me on. (When well, she has bipolar I, so when ill and psychotic there is an inevitable backsliding)

I think, what with a sick kid and on top of that being maneuvered between a rock and a hard place" of comply under duress, or "face the subsequent row just when you need it least", you've probably had all the crap you can take this week. So I wouldn't recommend taking up arms right now.

When this dies down what might be worth a try is telling your DH that while you understand how hard it is to stand up to her, especially after a lifetime of being trained not to, you are no longer prepared to be the collateral damage he creates in order to avoid changing his family's status quo.

And just keep repeating that rather than getting sucked into the details of each event.

Cos they do know, under the bluster, that their mum is "doing a mum" and getting away with it in part thanks to their son's habitual collusion.

No guarantees, because every individual set up is different, what with all the unique personalities that go into the mix, but I found that taking on the issue rather than letting it keep flaring up improved my relationship with my husband no end.

Not least cos I no longer go around seething at him for having chucked me under a bus as it were, being dumped not only with a situation I quite clearly didn't want any part of, but being treated like a stroppy git for even the most minor protest that I was far from happy at having my wishes brushed aside in favour of Battleship MIL. Again.

It took a good while, with many ups and downs, three steps forward, ten steps back. And I did have to step out of my comfort zone and start being combative and clear talking (to the point of being downright rude out of sheer necessity). But we got there in the end.

But it took some serious (and rather uncharacteristic) determination, cos she was so used to getting her own way willy nilly that she wasn't going to back down without some major, consistent opposition. It was a hill I was prepared to die on, cos the alternative would have killed off my marriage in the long run. So I stuck with it, even thought here were times when I couldn't even remember why I thought any rather unlikely gain would be worth all the effort and struggle.

In retrospect, while I can't say I'm grateful for the opportunity (if DH were to drop dead, husband 3.0 would be an orphan on principle), it has been good training ground for knocking the "far too polite in the face of others' rudeness for my own good" out of me, so other people tend not to regard me as a good place to practice similar tactics.

Which I suppose is some compensation ( =

The bigger compensation is that now my husband has far better control over his relationship with his mum, having seen that in fact it isn't "impossible" to stand up to her. He is much happier and a damn sight less stressed as a result of having learned to say no himslef, and follow through by sticking to it, it helps us both to know that we now can gang up and say it together rather than being stuck in a divided and ruled situation.

I'd wait till kidlet gets better and you have had the chance to recharge your batteries though. Takes some real effort and starting out feeling knackered and overwrought means you'll run out steam right when you need it most .

(((((((big fat hug)))))))), cos I know more or less how you feel right at this moment in time. And I know the answer to this is often more of gruelling marathon than a quick sprint and then all done and dusted.

DMCWelshCakes · 19/12/2010 22:25

Whole tribe of IL (3 generations) descended on us last year when my defences were down (swine flu) and DH was ill too. We told them not to come as we were infectious & snow was forecast. They came anyway (300 mile round trip, overnight stay one week before Christmas involving using all the beds & therefore loads of laundry).

We sent them home into weather-related travel hell with norovirus.

Oddly enough, when we told them not to come up this year they didn't.

Crude but effective...

Xmas Grin

By the way, YANBU. I'd have been angry in your position too.

Sidge · 19/12/2010 22:36

You're all as bad as each other.

She shouldn't have come round after you told her not to.

You shouldn't have martyred yourself and cooked, you should have left them to it.

Your husband should grow a pair and either tell her to leave, and you can all do dinner when DS is better, or get his ass into the kitchen and learn to make dinner. I find it astounding that a grown man with a family doesn't know how to roast a spud.

So there. Blame apportioned equally!

narkypuffin · 19/12/2010 22:37

Now they might have welcomed you 'doing a Val' Grin

2rebecca · 19/12/2010 22:51

Agree with Sidge. If you didn't want to cook the meal you shouldn't have,and should have just gone to another room, although if your son was really unwell I wouldn't have expected him to be in the room with the arguing adults and to be begging relatives to stay. I'd have thought he'd be in bed and half asleep, and your DH should have been more assertive re her not coming round. Having an unwell child in the sitting room with elderly relatives doesn't sound a good idea, and kids on sofas never look as ill as kids in bed so they wouldn't have taken the ill kid bit seriously if they'd seen he was downstairs in a community space.
I would not be wanting her in my house again for a long time. I don't see why some people are making a big deal about her bringing a turkey round and unpeeled veg. Picking up turkey and veg in supermarket is easy, the preparing and cooking is the tedious part.
Your husband should have been firmer re her not coming, and you should have made him and his parents cook if he wanted them to stay, or let them stay for a cup of coffee then made them leave, saying your ill child needed you, and they may catch something.

Morloth · 19/12/2010 23:06

Once again not actually a MIL problem but at DH one, he should have dealt with the whole situation. In your place I would have ripped him a new one and hello would have frozen over before I cooked.

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