to be genuinely confused as to why anybody who isn't rich would vote tory?

[StuckinTheMiddlewithYou]

Seriously, I don't get it. Unless you're earning at least £40K, why would you?

Enlighten me!

i think NL were awful when they were in power and in particular with their immigration and human rights policies and forcing multi culturalism on everyone.

Tax and spend as my grandfather would say who had to put up with Hackney council in the 70s

I was a trainee solicitor during the 1997 election. When Labour won, all of the solicitors (basic start salary £20k) were ecstatic. All the support staff were utterly dejected.

I'm a miner's daughter. Before I stopped working to have children, I earned a 6 figure salary. I'll never forget how the Tories decimated my community and nothing on this earth would persuade me to vote for them, whatever my income.

I'm going to sound thick now but haven't we accrued this massive debt because Labour bailed out the banks?

Also, does anyone on here live near a brand new hospital built by Labour?

Because they have made promises to turn around things that really depress me - namely the wrongs in the benefit system.

I dont earn anywhere near that and voted for them. I believed they would bring back traditional values and end the benefit culture we have. Labour all but killed our work ethic and the country needs it back rather than the current nanny state where we expect the state to pay for everything.

What xmascaroloffact said.

how ironic that one posts mentions the lack of work ethic and another poster grew up in a mining family

sums up the awful tory government to me, dark days ahead, dp works for royal mail, they are itching to privatise that

Labour may have built lots of hospitals - but sadly they haven't paid for them, that will be the job of our children and our children's children.

My dad fought against privatisation in the health service saying it would all go to pot and it did. Filthy wards, MRSA etc. Tories are about making money.

We needed those hospitals for our children and our children's children.

i don't suppose my children will begrudge paying for a hospital

These traditional values the Tories speak of, can't be instilled by a government. They start at home with parent(s) and carers surely?

Why do we latch onto this romantic notion about the tories and their blardy tradition values?

'al'

"My dad fought against privatisation in the health service saying it would all go to pot and it did. Filthy wards, MRSA etc. Tories are about making money."

Eh? Flithy wards and MRSA came under a Labour government...and the health service isn't private. Am I missing something? (genuine question, not trying to be cheeky).

Yes - but we are using them today and they will never be ours as they are all built under PFI and belong to businesses.

We will need to build new ones to replace the ones just built as we won't be able to afford to keep them open

The Labour Governments problem is that they massively increased public spending but relied on borrowing in order to finance it. Gordon Brown believed he had abolished the economic cycle and so borrowed money even in good economic times as he felt he had abolished boom and bust, it was an alarming piece of economic incompetence.

(I'm not a tory voter btw)

Well my dh earns over £55k, i am a stahm, we voted Tories as we cannot stand Nu Lab, fed up with the mess and overspending. I am still happy that I voted Tory, needs someone to make unpopular decisions. And yes we will be hit too, no more tax credit or child benefit for us, but totally understand that cuts have to be made.

The gold! Someone has to mention the gold

You get tax credits when your earning £55K??????

That is crazy.

Well I voted Tory because yet again Labour bankrupted this country, I remember Denis Healy with his begging bowl. In addition to that they also illegally took this country to war.

Not sure that earning 40k counts as rich though.

AIBU to wonder why Labour voters think it's perfectly acceptable to repeatedly start threads like this flinging insults at Tory voters? I've never seen a thread going the other way.

Speaks volumes to me.

And I'm forrin so have no loyalties to nor love for either party.

yes I do SITMWU, well its actully over 50k not 55. We filled this in the form so they know.

we were honest about what dh earns, its not a lot of tax credit but we get it.

i think we should start an entirely new party personally

I believe, based on the people that I know, that there are also a lot of lower paid working class voters who would have voted Tory because of their tough stance on immigration and crime i.e. more mandantory prison sentences etc.

I'm a labour voter normally but couldn't bring myself to vote for them this time round because they had buggered things up so much.

Voted for lib dem instead because would never vote Tory (that workd out well didn't it )