to think that dragging a disabled man out of his wheelchair is appalling behaviour?

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Protester Jody McIntyre - who has cerebral palsy - being pulled from his wheelchair onto the road by police at the recent protest.

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Disgusting behaviour.

I am a claimant, but please, do continue.

FFS.

Not on the wind up? Particularly stupid then.

I'm not going to engage any further with someone so lacking in humanity as you appear to be. 96 people died at Hillsborough. Your comments are offensive in the extreme.

Thankyou for pointing that out, lowrib. It was a particularly offensive example to use. I sang at the funerals of some of them who died, and they were hardly fucking violent interlopers- just victims of shitty arrogant policing.

Also, keep meaning to say, in the clip you can see a second police officer drag the first one away. Which is good, because it shows the first guy is being unreasonable, and the second one should be congratulated for stepping in. Shame he ever had to though.

The police officer in question was out of order. How can anyone argue otherwise? The argument given that we do not know full details is true- however that does not excuse the officers brutality. A need to search as fcm has suggested does not necessitate dragging him across the road. Out of his chair maybe, but no further. The other officers actions in restraining the first is also reflective of the situation. Fcm surely by arguing that the officer who dragged jody from his chair may be in the right, you are thereby accusing his collegues o(also police officers) of being wrong. This is not police bashing as you say, it is outrage at an individuals behaviour. That individual was a police officer. I for one hope that he is punished by the law for his disgraceful lack of judgement and aggression toward another human being. If not , then as others have suggested, it is a poor poor reflection of the state of our forces. m

funkychunky - I think when you try to compare a man with cerebal palsy who has been dragged out of his wheelchair with an armed murderer, you are really on the losing side of the argument.

And if you are going to mention Hillsborough, perhaps you should check your facts. The official reports have made it clear 96 people were killed by police failures.

FCM, I think you're making a mistake in presuming we're making judgements about all the police (y'know, like you've done with all benefit claiments) when in fact we're saying that this one officer was bang out of order.

Although having said that, even though he was just one, it does make me wonder what kind of atmosphere there is in the police force if he came to the conclusion that that was acceptable behaviour.

The way you have Hillsbrorough twisted in your head to show the police in a positive light, just renders every single point you've put forward on this subject null and void.

I thought police are allowed to use adequate force, if perosn is becoming aggressive, removing this man from his wheelchair-while dragging him across the street like that, unless the man was carrying a gun, weapon[which is clear he wasnt] then there is no reason for police to be so forceful

Im disgusted, however not suprised by the polices actions, they are legal buulies, who use and abuse their position of power.

The police officers involved are not different to a thug, who attacks the public. DISGUSTING

sorry typos crap, really angry about this.

Riven ignore FCM (if you can, I had to take some deep breaths!) s/he has a screw loose I think.

I thought, having watched the interview on BBC News 24, that Jody McIntyre made some interesting comments about police presence inciting violence. It does always seem to be the case that the very presence of police in these demos turns what is a sensible protest into a riot.

That interviewer was a twat though. The BBC have reached a new low.

"FCM, I think you're making a mistake in presuming we're making judgements about all the police (y'know, like you've done with all benefit claiments)"

Wot AngelZigzagsSparklyYuletideLog said.

Fuuuuuuuck me. I don't normally swear on MN but this thread has meant I just had to.

I've been bowled over by the intelligent, insightful, balanced arguments that justify just why that guy should have been tipped from his chair.

And fwiw I'm not anti-police. When I've dealt with them personally they've been great. I don't think that questioning their actions in this and other incidences is anti-police.

FCM - nobody has knocked the police on a whole

Same as nobody knock doctors as whole - there truly are some useless doctor

Bad plumbers, I think the guy that sorted my eletric was a cowboy too

There are idiots in profession, that on a whole are good services to the public

Can not possible see how a man with a wheelchair could have posed some much of a threat [without a weapon, which clearly is not the case] to police for this extreme behaviour, and you saying he his is only human, and makes mistakes is an insult to the the man on the receiving end of the IDIOT

Ive never heard of a doctor, police or any other profession fuck up and put it down to only being human

In my post at the beginning of the thread I wrote 'but even someone who breaks the law should be treated with dignity and treated in a way that makes them really vulnerable'. Clearly I meant NOT treated in a way that makes them vulnerable.

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not read whole thread, so maybe it has moved on,
the way this man was treated was disgusting, no idea whether he was breaking the law or not, but dragging him out of his chair was wrong they could have moved his chair .....
I think the policeman involved needs some disability awareness training

Not read the whole thread but not only was I disgusted to watch the footage, but I was equally as disgusted to see the BBC's Ben Brown's treatment of Jody McIntyre during his interview with him last night.

You can watch it here. Absolutely apalling:

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I wrote a letter of complaint to the BBC. If you're as angry as I am that your license fee is being spent on this 'journalism' then you can complain too here:

[email protected]

FCM, Hillsborough wasn't a riot.

Oops, I did the links wrong.

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FGS sake!! Link to the interview here. If you have time, please do watch it. It's awful. So angry.

tinyurl.com/2wa7qmo

Im stunned madonnawhore - having listened to the link, Seems the jornalist was trying to find excuses/clauses as to why the poor guy was treated in such away, also he stated he has been assualted by the police 45 minutes proir to the incident, Digusting, I for one, shall be making a complaint.

Im not to great with my english grammer etc[welsh 1st language] would appreciate some tips of what complaint should include.

I am so so angry with that stupid BBC reporter.I too want to complain.
The disabled guy has more about him and more intelligence than the stupid idiotic newsreader will ever have.

And as for the police who dragged him across the road..words fail me.

I have complained about the Ben Brown interview. I was going to anyway, so am happy to see others are taking action.

Mr Brown seemed to think he was prosecuting a witness, in a very low budget soap opera. I know interviews should be challenging, push the interviewee to find truth and generate discussion. I found this interview crossed the line.
The line for me was crossed, danced on and left far behind when Ben Brown quiped 'throw anything? Shout anything?'.

Not, I might add, because of the disability Josh McIntyre has. I'd have found that line below par regardless. Really, really poor.

The line the questions took would have obtuse, patronising, flppant and cringeworthy who ever was being interviewed. Im sure Josh McIntyre does not feel he needs special treatment from journalists and no one at all should meet with that level of distain from an independant news group.