to think that dragging a disabled man out of his wheelchair is appalling behaviour?

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Protester Jody McIntyre - who has cerebral palsy - being pulled from his wheelchair onto the road by police at the recent protest.

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Disgusting behaviour.

welshbyrd I should think you would be able to correspond in Welsh? However, I wouldn't worry if you prefer to use English. Just put across your views, even if you do make an error they are still valid.

I can almost promise you my complaint will have had errors

Wow! Double wow!

Actually I think no need for formal complaint: Jody McIntyre did an excellent job, made great points, and Ben Brown showed himself up as a complete twat!

"When are you going to make a formal complaint to the police?" is hardly "Did you threaten to overrule the prisons chief, Mr Howard?" is it?

I agree Thisisanicecage - Jody did a brilliant job, at making journalist look an idiot. Have still complained though, the person in wheelchair could have quite easily have been someone, who is not as educated, and forth right as Jody, and would have felt belittled after the interview.

Thanks christmastreedelivery - have emailed in English, well, my version of english

True, welshbyrd.

But, and I'm loathe to stand up for Brown but credit where it's due, he didn't do the truly evil thing of interrupting Jody, which interviewers do all the time but would in this case have been genuinely disability-disadvantaging.

So one teeny, tiny Brown Brownie point - cos I'm feeling generous cos he made such an obvious childish twat of himself!

Just read the blog - thanks for that DuelingFanio.

It seems he went to the riots looking for a ruck with the police and found one. He managed to put himself in the most dangerous places despite his vulnerability and then wonders why hes manhandled (seemingly for his own safety).

Other than being in a wheelchair, hes no different to the other rioting idiots bigging up their confrontations online.

IMO Ben Brown's interview had the right tone.

welshbyrd you complained about the interview because if someone else had been interviewed, they might not have done as well?

I disagree. I don't see evidence of wanting to be pulled from his wheelchair and dragged across the fround. Whatever way you look at it, like others have said, there was no reason to pull him from his wheelchair and force him to the ground. The policeman responsible really does need some disability awareness training for one thing, and also some training in basic suitable police response to non-threatening behaviour.

How you can say he was manhandled "for his own safety"?

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I have no idea what Jody McIntyres motives were. I would struggle to see how being pulled across the road by his arms would be in the interests of his own safety. Surely using his mobility aid would be more safe?

Whatever his motives were, be he a blameless activist or a hell bent rioter, and regardless of the fact he uses a wheelchair, I feel most people would have felt belittled by that interview.
I do not want to see people being belittled. It is simply not necessary.

"How you can say he was manhandled "for his own safety"? - DuelingFanio

From his own blog:

"Somehow, me and Finlay managed to weave our way through the police line. We found ourselves in a large no-mans-land, in between the riot police trying to stop the crowd, and the police horses getting ready to charge. I turned in my wheelchair to face the police. ?Move out of the way!? one of the mounted police shouted at me. I shook my head."

This was prior to the second incident, which puts a different spin onto the video.

Dragged to the side of the road for being a stubborn obstructive cnut, or trampled in his chair by horses? The police made the decision for him.

"Dragged to the side of the road for being a stubborn obstructive cnut, or trampled in his chair by horses?"

That's what passive resistance means, FGS.

They could have removed him without dragging him onto the floor. Many people in wheelchairs have conditions which mean they could have been seriously injured or put in serious pain by this kind of brutal treatment.

This policeman had no idea what his disability is, and acted with complete disregard for his safety. Please don't forget the other policeman tried to stop him - was that policeman wrong to do so in your opinion?

The police are meant to be protectin the public, and that includes Jody McIntyre, when he is protesting - it is his democratic right to do so.

Or would you rather no one protests the government no matter what they do?

MrManager - No I complained because "Seems the journalist was trying to find excuses/clauses as to why the poor guy was treated in such a way" in my first post

However, Jody did do a fab job in making journalist look an idiot.

the earlier incident he is talking about? In daylight rather than the later one which is in darkness/dusk.

Which Video are YOU talking about the spin on ccpccp? If it's the latter one can you explain why in the second one it was for his own safety?

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to call that brave young man a stubborn cunt says a lot about your reactionary mindset. Protesting is not a polite activity, it takes courage and sacrifice and you clearly have no idea what either those words mean.

"This policeman had no idea what his disability is, and acted with complete disregard for his safety" - lowrib

The same disregard he showed for his OWN safety. He deliberately put himself in front of a police horse charge and refused to move. The actions they took were entirely reasonable under the circumstances.

The police were protecting the public, from a bunch of rioters.

"That's what passive resistance means, FGS." - ThisIsANiceCage

Theres nothing passive about the way he goes toe-to-toe with a policeman in the first video. They pull him through the line to safety though, for his own good.

He was asking for it. He got it.

Brave young man LOL!

Hes a rioter in a wheelchair. Still a rioter.

Interesting definition of 'riot', ccpccp, 'sitting stationary in the middle of the road'.

You should pop over to Belfast one July, see how to do it properly

DuelingFanio - I think the video you linked is the first one where he was pulled through the police line.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but he seems to stand up out of his chair and is giving it out to a copper.

The one later (its on BBC website) is the video causing all the pant wetting, and is where he was dragged from his wheelchair before the horse charge started I think.

It would be consistent with his blog anyhow.

There is a blog post on Same Difference regarding complaints to the BBC regarding Ben Brown which I am largely in agreement with:

samedifference1.com/2010/12/14/toby-young-on-jody-mcintyre/

Hey - I'm not bothered about how he is categorised TheHeathenOfSuburbia, so long as it isnt as some innocent disabled man crushed by the brutal Tory state.

He went there looking for trouble and did everything he could to find it.

It's in the BBC's charter that they're supposed to be fair, balanced and impartial.

That interview was anything but. Brown was accusatory and one-sided. I can vote with my wallet when it comes to ignoring trash like the Daily Mail but Ben Brown's is not the type of journalism I want my license fee spent on.

ON the subject of the Daily Mail, the charming-as-always Richard Littlejohn wrote an absolutely disgusting piece on McIntyre here (scroll down to second headline):
tinyurl.com/2u3vecv

You can complain to the PCC here:
www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/form.html

When filling out the form, put that Littlejohn's piece in is violation of clauses 5i and 12i of the Editors' Code of Practice

With respect Riven, the article is written with reference to Jody McIntyre. Who doesn't have learning disabilities.

It's not pedantic to point out that Cerebral Palsy means only one thing though. There is a lot of varience.