to think that dragging a disabled man out of his wheelchair is appalling behaviour?

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Protester Jody McIntyre - who has cerebral palsy - being pulled from his wheelchair onto the road by police at the recent protest.

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Disgusting behaviour.

Tomhardy you seem to be yet another poster who thinks he deserves what he got, and like the other posters who say the same thing, you're making sweeping generalisations to back up your conclusion.

How you came to the conclusion he's an activist and behaved badly I just don't know.

Although, saying that, does that mean I'm also guilty of the same crime ie lumping all the posters with the same shitty attitudes together and starting to see similarities between them?

'disablist' SHOULD be common parlance. There is a lot of disablism about and it shouldn't be a word limited to the disabled community and laughed at once in a while by those outside this community who think it is just 'PC gone mad'. If racist is common parlance then why not disablist?

not in the slightest, maybe used activist in to broad a term as i do recognise the difference between peacefull activists and non peacfull activist.

And you said you thought he was one of 'the very type of people who are mostly behving badly' tom, so you thought he was a non peaceful activist.

I feel the same about your shitty and narrow minded attitudes about his disability being poignant here.

its not relavent he is a wheel chair user. and has no more power over an able bodies person being treated in this way. as does in the flip side of an able bodied person using similar means to protest.

his protest does not look peacfull in the footage from what I can gather from the footage he is preventing police movement and should be treated as any other person should be. removed with reasonable force and thats what I see happening in the footage.

Yes, but there is a way of removing activists which does not entail completely immobilising and humiliating them. The police did not do that in this case.

i agree dione, as I stated earlier they should not in my opinion drag anyone able bodied or not. easy for me to say as I am not a police officer working under these stessfull condiontions.

But they did use reasonible force and he should not be treated any differently than anyone else. the footage does not clearly show this man being tipped out of his wheel chair.

i dont agree sorry. I see what you see just different interpretations and belifes, we could go around in circles here but just not worth it.

where you there then? thats the only thing that would give you more context than me.

you where not there then hey, so in actual fact no more context at all.

context means you have more background, knowledge and evidance of the specific situation.

you clearly dont, you may know him personaly and his history but that does not give you more context to the situatiuon in question as to whether he was tipped or not.

you also do not know if you have more context about disability than me as you do not know my background.

key points in the definition of context.

Then what is the fact/knowledge that you have which tomhardy does not that gives you more context?

we have both made assumptions based on what the other person says. that happens in debate

have shared what? I have read your posts back and looked at your links and still fail to see anywhere any evidabce that gives you more authority on this than me or anyone else.

Sorry if this link has been posted already but I can't read all 14 pages at moment. Maybe the debate moved a bit past the original point anyway .....

Mark Steel in the Independent as always gets straight to the nitty gritty: funny

"Or maybe the incident with Jody McIntyre is nothing to do with students, and this is the new test for anyone on disability benefit. The police sling you on the floor, poke you about a bit, and if you manage to roll anywhere, there is clearly nothing wrong with you and you get your payments cut."