To believe that a sizeable chunk of MN holds these opinions?

[MrManager]

The situation described here.

It seems a lot of people, mainly women ime, will assume 'paedophile' very quickly.

Now if he took them out the pack and started sniffing them...

MrManager, we have probably all met a paedophile in our lifetimes. We just don't know it. Statistically, they are far more likely to be members of our own family than strangers hanging around the playground waiting to 'take' children.

I work with children in care, a sizeable chunk of whom have been sexually abused. It is therefore something I fear for my own child. I have seen the damage paedophiles do.

I think to dismiss all fear about paedophilia affecting our own children as alarmist is incredibly dangerous. I agree that the balance is often tipped towards hysteria (vandalism on a paediatrician's house, for example), but it is just as irrational to suggest that the balance needs to be tipped as far in the other direction.

I just read an article in the Irish Times and thought of you Mr Manager

Former priest jailed for 16 years for abusing altar boys (Trigger warning)

I'm not going to quote any of it on here because it is upsetting and people can choose whether or not to click on the link. THIS is what happens when people don't consider the possibility of paedophiles in their community.

Now off you trot back to your MRA mates. I've wasted far too much time on you.

I never said don't consider it, earwicga, I just don't think that it should be the default assumption, which for SOME people it seems to be.

Who MrManager ? Who is it the default assumption for? It was 'a sizeable chunk of MN' on Sunday. Today it is ' some people'. I think you are backtracking now.

I'm not holding my breath for an apology from you though.

earwicga, here is your prescription for 50mg of chill pills. Please take 2 per day, after lunch and dinner.

And it's clear you're just trolling now, so good night.

some people have all sorts of odd ideas about things. How does that translate to a sizable chunk?

The blog writer thinks that negative interaction from the man in the security guard role is because the man in the security guard role thinks that the blog writer is a paedophile. Nothing the man in the security guard role says or does suggests this. Its very likely that the man in the security guard role suspected the blog writer was a shoplifter and was making his presence felt. Thats what they do. They don't always just wait to nick you as you walk out with your 'order', they say something as a way of letting you know you are being watched. Are we supposed to concluded that a sizeable chunk of men think that someone talking to them in a shop is an accusation of paedophillia, or just a sizeable chunk of male blog writers, or shall we do the sensible thing and not draw any daft conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever?

Ah, so you got your op wrong, but are too pathetic to apologise or back down. You don't know what trolling is. and you are calling me crazy. Why not say hysterical or do the MRA sites train you to keep that up your sleeve for later?

How pleasant. And stupid.

Well said the grudge and earwicga.

BTW, I did not mean to imply in my last post that I don't think paedophilia is horribly prevalent. But nor am I looking out for "funny men" in my trips to Dept stores

But I can understand if a man feels a little put out if asked what he's doing in the girls pants section...shop-lifters rarely steal pants...now batteries...toiletries even coffee...but pants?

Parents distracted by shopping means young kids could be easy to snatch.I have actually seen an abduction attempt in a busy shopping centre.My SIL and I and chased the man concerned (the father looking after the 2 little girls went off on his way completely unaware that he was a split second from one of his daughters being taken.)it DOES happen and good on the store for being vigilant.
Although I don't believe in paedophiles round every corner, the naivety of some MNers is shocking.For example the thread a month or 2 ago where MNers thought it OK for a father to sit on the toilet and watch an 8yr old friend of his DD showering

From MSNBC -- convicted sex offender bought clothes in Walmart and kidnapped a girl, who was found wearing them.

'Alisa's hair had been cut and she was wearing new clothes, which helped lead police to Smith. Tags indicated the clothes came from a Wal-Mart, and police traced them to a store in Troy, about halfway between Louisiana and St. Louis County.'

So it never happens? (Yes, I know this example is from the big bad US of A and the whole teddy bear thing is saccarinish.)

YABU.

OP, regarding your original question, ultimately YABU; you asked if you were, the majority of respondents said you were, but you still hold the same views. Why ask if you were already so sure of the answer? Most people on here have critised the blog because it jumps to conclusions, and they make a fair point I think.

Caboodle I asked if I was unreasonable to believe it, but there weren't many responses saying 'no, actually I don't do that'.

You didn't ask, you stated that a lot of people, mainly women in your experience assume paedophile when they see a man in the children's section of a shop.

I think it's a fair assumption to make, or at least a sensible one. I also think despite the PC protests of some here, the majority of women, when they shop with their small children, have the safety of the children uppermost in their minds, and that includes quickly assessing the intentions of the people around them wrt the children. It's second nature.

math - I hope you don't think I'm being PC. I really do stand by what I said. There are situations where I'd be wary (eg public toilets), but I don't think I'd blink an eye at a man in a dept store.

I once called the police about a man behaving very suspiciously in a playground. Id' watched him over about 40 minute period. He was staring at the children intently, then he'd go over and stand next to a woman with a child, close enough so a casual onlooker would think he was with her, but then I noticed he did this several times over that period. To me it looked like he was looking for an opportunity to expose himself, at the very least

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure was my motto when out with the DCs when they were very young. I do think anyone who isn't aware of their surroundings (including all the people in their surroundings) is putting themselves and their children in a vulnerable position. If you're going to watch your bag, you're making assumptions about the intentions of people around you, and nobody apologises for that.

The possibility of a child being abducted by a stranger from a shop is low, but it does happen. I would be wary of any woman paying too much attention to any child of mine too, as individual women have also abducted children -- but mainly not for the same purposes as men do.

So he got pulled up by a male security guard , he should have just told him to mind his own business or complain .IMO he must have been acting dodgy because I have had years of retail experiance and not once have I seen security pull up random men doing their daughters clothes shopping .mr
manager do you think everyone on mm willmsee a
man shopping for girls clothes and think he is a peado ? Because that is a huge generalisation and just as bad as the people who do think peado when they see a man in the childrenswear section .