To believe that a sizeable chunk of MN holds these opinions?

[MrManager]

The situation described here.

It seems a lot of people, mainly women ime, will assume 'paedophile' very quickly.

MrManager, where am I being mocking?

MrManager, that's as may be, but we (as a society) haven't got to that point yet. However, I believe we are going towards that point. Not backwards. Not to hell in a handcart. Just towards a society which believes victims of abuse, acknowledges that paedophilia does exist, and allows men to buy their daughters underwear.

Your implication was that we should return to a society where most people did not know what paedophilia was. I am simply questioning that assertion.

pippitysqueakity "'a matriarchal hegemony' oh ha ha ha.
How sorry do I feel for men now. There is an issue about which they are being judged unfairly. Welcome to our world. Judged by another man (the security guard). Yet that is the fault of us matriarchs...go back to your patriarchal sites where you can have all the hegemony you need." There, esp. the 'how sorry' bit.

tethersjinglebellend That was definitely your inference, there was none of that in any of my posts.

MrManager - your OP says 'a lot of people, mainly women ime, will assume 'paedophile' very quickly. How the hell does a male security guard approaching a customer prove that women think all men are paedophiles?

We don't actually need you to tell us what hegemony means. What did you want, a bunch of old fashioned 1950s housewives gazing at you adoringly, asking you to explain the long word?

Don't know which is shakier, tbh, your grasp of logic or your grasp of reality.

BeerTricksPotter that was not why I called her unreasonable and you know it. Or would have if you had read it. And besides, she's updated it and I had made a mistake in what she wanted, which I acknowledged.

Not mocking. A tad sarcastic maybe. And realistic.

Well, was just about to engage and reply to your last post, MrManager, when I read this:

I think I've changed a lot of lives here today.

Well, you've changed mine. I'm off to bed now, whereas I was going to stay up a bit longer. Night night

edam: "your OP says 'a lot of people, mainly women ime, will assume 'paedophile' very quickly'. How the hell does a male security guard approaching a customer prove that women think all men are paedophiles?"

It doesn't, and I never said it did.

I linked the blog post as an example of the attitudes that I have experienced in society. Last time I checked, women were a part of society.

I never said I needed to tell you what hegemony means. Please re-read my post. You are putting words in my mouth.

Night night tethersjinglebellend

BeerTricksPotter before she updated, I thought it was a thread where a lady had refused to buy an entire manufacturer's cars because her mum was killed in one, which seemed textbook unreasonable. I linked it as an example of how AIBU was just people agreeing with the OP, rather than telling her she was BU. Of course, now I know what she meant it's not as bad for people to tell her she was NBU.

If you think AIBU is mainly people agreeing with the OP, you haven't read many threads yet... AIBU is notorious for OPs getting terribly offended when everyone argues with them.

like the supersoaker thread, for example

I don't like the idea that women on MN need to make sure we don't speak ill of men under any circumstances, which seems to be your opinion, MrManager.

Why is it that when women have a place to call their own (MN) men feel the need to infiltrate it and tell us what we should think and where our place should be?

Isn't there a place where dads can go and bitch all they want about their unfair lots in life?

If the OP had daughters I feel so sorry for them. If only they had a father who valued women.

mathanxiety that's not my opinion at all.

TyraG MN is not a place a place for women to call their own. "By parents for parents".

If you have sons I feel so sorry for them. If only they had a mother who valued men.

I do value men. Men being the operative word. Just because you have a penis doesn't make you a man.

Get over yourself. Just out of curiosity, are you a single dad?

"I do value women. Women being the operative word. Just because you have a vagina doesn't make you a woman."

See TyraG. See TyraG post. See how ridiculous TyraG sounds!

YABU to raise this as an issue about mothers/women. The writer was questioned by a MALE security guard - if it's about gender its more a man on man thing to me. Why don't you take it up on the security guard chat boards?

FindingMyMojo It's not about a gender's attitudes, it's about society's attitudes. The gender of the security guard is entirely arbitrary.

So you think the security guard represents 'Society'?? Some leap!

"Sounds like gender discrimination to me." Closing line of the 'article' - you then say you think mostly woman will agree with this security guard - HUGE leap to make. I don't think it's about gender at all.

Maybe the writer was in fact behaving strangely in his behaviour compared to other customers??? Maybe the security guard was a total idiot??? Who knows??? But I very much doubt this has anything to do with gender discrimination.

YA still BU

it's about the security guard doing his job, by all accounts. The agenda you've tried to attach to it is ridiculous.

The blog is not mine, the writer is not me. I have had similar experiences, with women in the 'security guard' role.

I'm still waiting for indisputable proof that the security guard was thinking what he's been accused of thinking.