To try and start a campaign to stop the uk release of 'A Serbian film'

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I'm not suggesting anyone read the synopsis as that's disgusting enough. But I don't know how the government can allow this disgusting film to be released!

Surely this sort of film encourages paedophillia and violent rape.

There are more slaves alive now than there has been before at any time in the history of the world. The majority of this is sex trafficking.

I'm revolted that a film like this can be given even a censored release date (10th)

by heard do you mean she has the most posts?

Sorry but I will refuse to buy the bull-shit these guys are trying to sell me...if it looks like it...smells like it...why am i doubting myself and saying its chocolate cake when it's obviously a turd?

She has the most posts and the vast majority of posters have agreed with her entirely. The very few who haven't have been so bold as to say there might be an allegorical aim [which may fail] it sounds sickening in its content, one person who has actually seen it did not think it titillating etc.

No one has said 'great film, really entertaining, not against women at all'

Though you'd think they had.

Well pofakked I think she's just responding to those who seem to want to hold on on to the allergorical aim as a reason why this film cannot be effectively judged without having to torture yourself by watching it first..

Absolute rubbish dittany. You are being totally obtuse in refusing to see the link between the allegory of manipulation of the Serbian people by the Serbian government and the subsequent anger of the people, and the same anger and feeling of manipulation during the war. The Independent reviewer made the same link. It is a valid link to make.

You are now doing what you did before, trying to cheapen my character rather than using reasoned debate. I am now forced to go back to my previous posts to show you where I have made comments that fit a feminist analysis to defend myself, which is what you do repeatedly when you feel in a corner.

Was NOT expecting to read that on Wikipedia!! Bloody hell. It sounds awful.
Who will go to see this film? If I didn't know what it was about I may have gone out of curiosity but now I know, I have no want at all to see it.

Maybe the director is attempting to allegorise the crimes of the Balkan War, but I bet that most people going to see this film won't know where the Balkans are let alone what the hell the film has to do with it.

VSM excellent point - "Maybe the director is attempting to allegorise the crimes of the Balkan War, but I bet that most people going to see this film won't know where the Balkans are let alone what the hell the film has to do with it."

This is not art. This is not educating the masses about the pain and rape of the Balkan conlflict. This is torture porn that poeple WILL go and see. For fun. And THAT is wht I find so sickening.

I said that too toddlerwrangler.

Well its a good point whoever says it.

There is no suggestion in anything I have read about this film that any of the performers in it were coerced into performing, or physically hurt in the course of the making of the film, which would be the only valid reason to bring any kind of criminal proceedings against the filmmakers. Whether they are (ineptly) presenting an allegory with a moral compass or whether they just thought it would be a bit of fun to try and outgross even hardened horror critics, I do not know. More to the point I don't care. I support people's right to make whatever films they like as long as they don't coerce or assault the performers they hire. If you want to make a film about running over directors with a steamroller, why don't you go and get a camcorder, and a steamroller, and go right ahead? Oh, as long as you have the budget and skills to not actually kill anyone in the making of the fim, of course.

'Whether they are (ineptly) presenting an allegory with a moral compass or whether they just thought it would be a bit of fun to try and outgross even hardened horror critics, I do not know.'

Exactly what I have said SGB.

Ha!sometimes that happens legitimate or not..

But StuffinggoldBrass, another issue I have is that some filmmakers will go to far when trying to outdo/outgross/outart each other - I am thinking specifically films like Cannible Holocause where the director was jailed (if you love animals I suggest I you DO NOT goode what he did :( ) . Its become a sick game these days, who can go the furthest.

I think I can't support nonsense and sexual violence ...

Just to add, I really do mean it about not Googleing that film.

pofakked can i get a link to the indepedent reviewer?...

Who knows what allegory, if any, exists in the film - it is probably personal to the director and he can say whatever he likes.

But tbh, if I was to make a film like this I would say to the world it has some sort of artistic allegory rather than admit I am a sick fuck who made a sick film for me and all my sick friends to enjoy.

What a strange world when something like this is acceptable when it's described as art. It's like people are too afraid to see it for what it is for fear of being labelled a philistine.

TW: The director of Cannibal Holocaust was jailed because he and his crew committed deliberate acts of cruelty against animals for the purpose of making the film. If they'd done it with stuffed toys and red paint (or a more sophisticated version of the same) they would not have been jailed.
I am a bit surprised that Michael Haneke didn't get into trouble for deliberately killing a load of fish in his horrible Seventh Continent (the most disturbing film I have ever seen).
There is a difference between depicting horrid things with actors, props and special effects and harming living creatures to make a film.

Prove where I attacked you dittany on returning to the thread. You know full well I have done nothing of the sort. I wish you'd leave me alone, I only returned to the thread when you started referring to me 'throwing my toys out of the pram' and then that I randomly compared the film to Bergman. So I answered back. Why don't you just stop referring to me and my posts?

It is pathetic, it really is. You've lost the argument and now you've started at me again.

Yes I was thinking of Cannibal Holocaust SGB.