To try and start a campaign to stop the uk release of 'A Serbian film'

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I'm not suggesting anyone read the synopsis as that's disgusting enough. But I don't know how the government can allow this disgusting film to be released!

Surely this sort of film encourages paedophillia and violent rape.

There are more slaves alive now than there has been before at any time in the history of the world. The majority of this is sex trafficking.

I'm revolted that a film like this can be given even a censored release date (10th)

Dittany my post was in response to a poster who made out that Serbs made this film, as opposed to a serb and that they dont belong in modern Europe

or maybe I have the wrong end of the stick and all or most or maybe even just a bare majority of Serbs actually were responsible for funding and making this film, and the entire country needs to be demonised for it

I don't condone this 'entertainment' - I abhor it (obviously) - I believe I said it's the worst thing I ever read.

I don't support censorship in the 'real world' - I do on here because this is a moderated board and I don't want people from Serbia to read posts that generalise and call them 'BEASTS'.

I generally think racist posts should be removed.

Fwiw I think the film sounds disgusting and I don't condone it at all but I am baffled and offended by attempts to make this film some kind of statement about Serbs

The problem I have with censorship is that the banned film/book/record automatically acquires kudos and cool.
And thousands of people who would never have dreamed of going to the see the film on legal release will now want to.

The film sounds vile - but, surely, the only type of person who'd want to see it would be some sick fuck who's probably beyond redemption anyway?

I know that's pretty lame justification for not banning a film but I would be more concerned about the cult status a ban would bring.

If the film is released a few weeks before Christmas it will come and go in a couple of weeks and be forgotten about.

Look at how films like: I Spit On Your Grave, Driller Killer and Texas Chainsaw Massacre are STILL cult/talked about films decades after their original release - purely because their banning in various territories gave them 'must see' apppeal.

Personally I would like to see a world wide ban on this movie but I do agree that banning it outright may encourage people to watch it out of curiosity.

Yes, that's right I do support it for one issue and not the other.

I don't want to see racist posts on mumsnet - a moderated board that contains intelligent and decent debate.

In society I don't want racist literature censored as I don't want to live in a totalitarian state. Serbia was a totalitarian state - bet that was shit, bet that prevented the majority of Serbs knowing what the smeg was going on.

It's really not hard to make an argument for why I hold capricious views.

And one shitty little film (containing utterly abhorent themes) that will be seen by a few idiots is nothing compared to this in the real world - bet they haven't seen a horror film

Dittany - Everyone on here shares your disgust about the film. No one wants to see it. No one condones it.

everyone thinks the director is an idiot for even thinking of the film, let alone making.

All anyone has done on here is say that they cannot definitively say it doesn't achieve it's claim to represent the atrocities without seeing it.

This isn't the same as supporting or condoning it.

It's a fact. You can have a definitive knowledge of the plot itself through the synopsis after reading it. You cannot have a definitive knowledge of the film without seeing it.

You can have an opinion though, and I think we can safely say we all share the same opinion that this is vile bullshit.

I'm not sure there any people on here reserving judgement on this film.

Seems fairly unanimous to me

How is this Serb propaganda, dittany, how?

How does this one fucker speak in authority for all Serbs? How?

It may be hairsplitting Dittany, but it is true. I cannot know exactly what the film is without seeing it. I'd bet money on it not going anywhere near being an allegory for violence, same as you, but it doesn't mean I know for certain.

I'm not reserving judgement, just acknowledging the fact that I will never watch it and therefore will not know all the facts. The facts I already know sicken me enough.

Yeah, I'm not going to go and see it - reading that wikipedia entry was enough for me. I can still comment on how awful it was made though.

Even if I saw it I wouldn't want it banned no matter how awful it was. It would just glamourise it and make idiots go and see it.

I have seen enough awful things in my life to not seek them out in film.

well obviously as he called it that it really must be true, all Serbs obviously support it it's in the title after all

And prior posters didn't have access to that quote, they were going on being told that it was possibly meant to represent the atrocities.

Based on that quote, obviously not.

Based on what people knew before however, what I wrote still stands.

I personally never dug further for info on this film as I'd already decided it was vile and I wanted nothing to do with it. I only joined this thread to point out that banning it would help rather than hinder the film.

I am hiding this thread now

I have family who lived or not as the case may be during the Balkan wars and if anything it has made me less eager to demonise an entire people, I accept that others feel differently

I was with dittany until the "men can't be raped by a women" post....

And people were saying that they couldn't know for certain before you posted it yesterday.

I thought rape included objects

or have I been watching too much American Law and Order?

Does that mean that under English law that penetration by objects is always called sexual assault then?