To think a lot of American films (especially Disney) are quite racist?

[lollypoplady]

(Okay, not sure if 'English' is a race, or whether it would come under 'caucasian'. I know that people get accused of racism against 'Irish' so I am assuming 'English' can also be a race - or would that be ethnic origin?!) Anyway, so many of the villans in American films are English, I notice this especially watching Disney films with the kids, if all the villans had for example Indian accents or even Irish accents wouldn't more of a fuss be made? Just curious!

Is it Independence Day where the English characters are depicted as bumbling, clueless and hanging around waiting to be told what to do by the Americans? I seem to remember the English all having RP accents (cos that's how everyone, without exception, speaks in Britain. We also all live in view of Big Ben, in a castle)

If you take the time to read my post you'll see that I was doing the opposite of sweeping generalisations. As are most people.

And I think I'll say rock up quite as often as I like, since I pretty sure no-one elected you King of the Words.

I love watching American versions of Jolly ol England.

That horrible film from last year 'Christmas Carol' had Dickensian London laid out in a grid pattern

The worst film in the world 'The Miracle of the Cards' (I am slightly obessed with this film) portrayed a London oncology ward for children as a grey and depressing, leaking, cold dormitory. The beds were rusty and they had old army blankets on them. Fucking cheek.

Tidey no offence but if they didn't have everyone in RP english the vast majority of the world would not have a fucking clue!

Can you imagine a scouse-geordie-welsh-glasweigan etc etc film released anywhere but the UK?

You'll find the the vast majortiy of hollywood films and tv shows out of the states the characters have bland mid western accents. Even the shows based in New York or the south, they may add the token regional phrase but generally they could be from anywhere. They just want everyone to be understood.

I pretty sure no-one elected you King of the Words but when they do 'rock up' will be the first on the chopping block

Of course they are racist.The heros are mostly blonde,blue eyed and handsome and the villans are dark and look like charecters out of the anti semitic Nazi properganda.Just look at The Lion King and Alladin for examples

That's true, I often thought that about Scar & Mufasa, plus the fact they are meant to be brothers & one is English, the other American.... My daughter has black hair and it has made me quite aware of the disproportionate amount of bad women with dark hair in Disney films.
I also notice in the old Disney cartoons & fairytales in general it's always the wicked older women who are the baddies out to get the beautiful young girls

Oooeerrrr, Miss...
Ones nationality has nothing to do with ones race...as I'm sure you've been told many a time above.

I'd like the be the Local Councillor of The Words.

I'm a bit late to this thread but I'd like to add a couple more English accented Disney villains:

Shere Khan - Jungle Book
Edgar, the Butler - The Aristocats

I've noticed the cultural stereotyping more than the villains, to be honest ie the French cook/chef in The Little Mermaid and the Italian cook/chef in Lady and the Tramp. There are more but I can't think of them right now.

I used to work for a big US company and I found most of the people I worked with to be intelligent, humorous and well educated (apart from one particular office in Dallas).

My former boss is based in California and is black (he would call himself an American of colour) and his wife is white. When he came to the UK for the first time, he was convinced it would be more racist here than in the US and was really pleased to see a poster depicting a mixed race couple just as we left Heathrow (I picked him up). I thought that it was a bit sad that he thought he would experience more racism here. Made me wonder what our image is actually like.

It's not just Disney. Any of the competition shows like American Idol, there's always a nasty British judge - Simon Cowell the prime example!

And US chocolate is foul.

I first noticed this when I was about 10 years old. I noticed that Dick Dastardly is English. After that I realised loads of other villains were too.

Frollo from Hunchback Of Notre Dame is English.

And I believe the evil step mother, Lady Tremaine in Cinderella is too

True true...it's only unreasonable because in a 'who dunnit' style series you always know who did it as soon as you hear the British accent! Especially true in CSI bones etc!

It goes back to the War of Independance, Brits are always shown in American films as the bad guys, it's not just Disney.

It's not just about the "English." I hate how there is the 'foreign' exotic beautiful woman, the 'other'. There is a tendency to portray cultures other than white western as exotic thereby perpetuating an exclusive and ignorant attitude. It's patronising. Thinking Pocahontas for example.

Scoobytoo... The British accents in the the CSIs and NCIS are all scientists!

Stewie griffin(I know, not disney) was apparently given his english accent to make him sound more sinister

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