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to get DD a white poppy to wear at a remembrance service?

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GallumDrawnAndQuartered · 03/11/2010 16:23

She is 14 and has been selected by the school to represent her house at their service.

DD is vehemently pacifist and anti-war.

Rather than her get in trouble for refusing to go (which is what she is planning on doing) would it be unreasonable for her to go but to wear a white poppy instead of a red one?

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Appletrees · 05/11/2010 21:37

Oh well.. I was right.. not worth bothering.

WingDad · 05/11/2010 21:39

I'm starting to waste my breath I think, besides the fact I've had a long day. Pisces is right, I'm not going to turn anyone's opinion here so there's no point.

Furthermore, this isn't what the thread is about, it's about Remembrance and the wearing of different coloured poppies.

I give up, you can continue with your comfy armchair opinion.

Guacamole · 05/11/2010 21:40

You are implying anyone who has ever joined the Armed Forces is either misinformed or bloodthirsty. You really don't have a clue do you?

Appletrees · 05/11/2010 21:44

But just to say to wingdad and Guac .. a poster earlier, can't remember who, said the same thing about cluelessness. I really think that's true after this exchange.

Sad because you couldn't get a dentist? on a thread like this?

catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 21:44

In a few years Iraq will be viewed in exactly the same way Vietnam was! Most people have woken up to what evil has taken place by America and Britain here. It is very sad to see that some people havent. I think if one of your children had their legs blown off and it was your life and country ruined by this war of greed you may feel differently.

we created CHAOS there!

Appletrees · 05/11/2010 21:45

Wingdad, I don't know how or where you served, are serving, but thanks.

SkeletonFlowers · 05/11/2010 21:56

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penguin73 · 05/11/2010 21:56

I think if there is one thing I have learned on here and on similar sites (and Sky news) is that some people are so convinced that they are right and so blinkered in their views that they have no interest in,or consideration of other people's comments. I think if you are not careful you end up going mad/getting upset at the callous ignorance of some people. I now just try to take heart in the positiveness of many towards the Armed Forces and try not to let the others get to me. (Lets be honest, you've already got it hard enough being in the branch you are ;)

penguin73 · 05/11/2010 21:57

That was aimed at Wingdad btw.

WingDad · 05/11/2010 21:58

Ooooh Penguin, if that was directed at me, low blow! Grin

You know how to cut to the core of me haha!

catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 21:59

earwicga we are wasting our time. People like Appletrees and Guacamole do not have any understanding of the region or frankly they dont give a shit because it doesnt affect them or their children. They are clearly right wing sun/mail readers who dont mind us going over to kill and maim people in other parts of the world as long as they can keep getting cheap oil.

piscesmoon · 05/11/2010 22:00

I have every understanding for the 14yr old at the start of this thread seeing everything as black and white, but I can't understand adults not wanting to see the different shades of grey.

catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 22:00

SkeletonFlowers..who put saddam in power????????????????????????????????

catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 22:01

picesmoon I appreciate you are not actually a nasty person but your glib comments on this thread and uniformed opinions are getting quite grating.

Appletrees · 05/11/2010 22:03

These posts are like "well say what you want about Mussolini but the trains ran on time". I am astonished. I think South Africa ran pretty well indeed for large sections of the population before the end of apartheid. Does that justify apartheid? Perhaps we shouldn't have bothered with sanctions? So what if hundreds of thousands of black people were being tortured and killed -- at least the middle classes could get a dentist Hmm

completely weird

Appletrees · 05/11/2010 22:05

Catholic, you go too far.

catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 22:05

rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/doctors-report-unprecedented-rise-in-deformities-cancers-in-iraq/

Appletrees scroll down and look at these images..

I dont go far enough!

penguin73 · 05/11/2010 22:06

ooh Wingdad you know there is no way such comments can pierce your v thick skin and layers and layers of green to get to the core! though depending on which H you are at the core has probably been removed by now at some strange ritual gathering involving face paint and lots of beer and curry!

SkeletonFlowers · 05/11/2010 22:06

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catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 22:09

oh I see your skipping over the point about who put saddam in power..how very convenient

Guacamole · 05/11/2010 22:10

Don't you f**king dare say it doesn't effect me! You have no idea!
I'll leave you to it... But every now and then why don't you sit down and give your arse a rest.

catholicatheist · 05/11/2010 22:11

No it was wingdad who was talking about providing aid and as Earwig and I were pointing out the aid wouldnt have been necessary if we were not bombing the place to bits in the first place. So make as many pointless glib sarcastic remarks as you want.

Appletrees · 05/11/2010 22:11

Skeleton goodnight, yr posts were damned well informed and cogent.

I do have one problem with red poppies. Why is one never wearing the one on yesterday's coat when you meet the next Legion seller. The count so far is five, and they're all on yesterday's coats.

piscesmoon · 05/11/2010 22:12

I find your rants quite grating too Catholicatheist-actually more than quite grating.
I know that in a tight spot you would be the last person I would want anywhere near me-whereas WingDad-despite his job has compassion and empathy-or that is what I feel-(as much as you can on the internet).
I find you bigoted and will have to stop reading. Perhaps tyhe thread should have finished ages ago, when OP's DD decided on a very sensible course of action.

Appletrees · 05/11/2010 22:13

Catholic, people do know as much and Shock almost certainly even more than you do about the Middle East. It's just called having a different opinion.