I think it is time this was stood up to

[wishiwas21again]

I sent this to headquarters. If anyone wishes to support me great, if not well at least I tried

Hi there. It seems there is a certain amount of online bullying that happens on your website. Certain posters seem able to make very offensive comments and then either get away with it or if challeneged, they are viciously defended by their 'supporters'. I am sure this is not the culture you would wish to promote on your website and I feel tempted to report this elsewhere. I still believe that to say 'women who give up career choices they are stupid aren't they' should not be encouraged on your website where many SAHM post and do not wish to be labelled as stupid collectively. I would not make such sweeping generalisations about any group. Thank you for your time

Wish I have no idea why you are coming on here tryng to make us feel guilty because you suffered abuse as a child.

I am not going to top trumps you on tragic childhoods but I think saying 'I know what bullying is' on this thread is self defeating and utterly inappropriate.

scottishmummy - I was grateful for one bit of support yes. She was hardly fawning over me 'oh aren't you great OP because you can think of really great names to call someone'

Shirley - I apologised for my original post which stated Xenia might be a troll. If it offended her or anyone I am sorry. I am not attacking anything personal about Xenia just stating my offense at some of her comments.

I am not a bully because I have said 'do you know what I don't like being branded as stupid because I don't work'.

I do not know what to say, wishiwas21again, exept I understand exactly what you mean.

I think it speaks volume on your personality(in a very positive way) that after having been through the childhod you describe, your spirit's still up and you carry on standing up for yourself. Good on you!

i always luffed you darlink, remember that after i am gawn

Christ, I know I'm knackered but is this deja vu?

including this forum, Kaloki

OP, I am sorry that your childhood was blighted

I am not trying to make anyone feel guilty GetOrfMoiLand. I was just stating that I do know what bullying is, that is all.

Oh for goodness sake - you're like a dog with a bone - just leave it now. Go and get a cup of tea or something. You've said (in this OP, anyway) that you've reported this "bullying" and that if nothing happens "at least you tried".
So, now that nothing's happening, just forget it and move on - for everyone's sake, not least your own. You'll give yourself an ulcer if you carry on like this.

Let it go..

This is not about my childhood. I know what bullying is and I am not one. But I can handle myself.

but as ever, if you have a problem with what a poster has said, take it up on the thread in question, don't trail grievances around the boards

You risk looking a bit petulant

ooops, too late

Christ on a bike OP, have you got nothing better to do?
Maybe you SHOULD GO GET A JOB AND USE YOUR TIME MORE EFFECTIVELY!

2blessed- ahhh you just reminded me of my mum!

I am not stressed 2blessed. Actually I feel good that I am sticking up for myself. I have skulked away with my tail between my legs many a time before.

Xenia isn't a bully she is a one-trick pony.

OP if you read any of her posts you will see that she just says the same thing over and over again. I think she just sits there cutting and pasteing.

She only posts on private school threads, debates about wohm v sahm and a few of the benefit threads and if you don't have a career plan in place by the time you are out of pampers you are a nobody.

bored now. who thinks i'm capable of fixin a stairgate? i'm not so sure and a bit worried about the plaster

You say you can handle yourself, but you are coming across as oversensitive...

A person you have never met, nore likely to ever meet thinks you are daft for giving up your career choices.

I mean, wtf, surely this isn't news to you. Surely you know a lot of folk think it's a daft thing to do?
How has one comment by someon eon tinternet rocked you so badly?

dislike this immediate rush to deride anyone else pov.the joy of mn is the ability to disagree

the frustration is over personalisation of posters and posters.this attempt to demonise a pov or poster is not on.if one cannot tolerate the mere presence of divergent opinion that is perhaps their issue

plenty enough precious moments mamas and biddulph et all fans citing spurious research and opining about working mums as avaricious harridans

"I think there is nothing more important than having a mother who puts you first."

There. I take MASSIVE FUCKING OFFENSE at that. There you go. Because I work I don't put my children first? What a foul thing to say. (See if I followed this up now by calling you a vicious cunt or something then your would be totally right to report me)

Am I going to report you? NO, am I going to start two threads complaining about you? No

Do you get it now? The thing about having had a dreadful childhood is awful - I'm sorry that happened to you, truly, it doesn't give you a free pass though to be out of order though. The same way as the fact that I was horrifically bullied at work once and that I've had awful things happen in my life gives ME a free pass to be UNREASONABLE.

Wonders when this thread will be deleted

Yes I did take it up on said thread. I probably shouldn't have brought it here but hey we make choices and I want to stick by this one

Only two supporters so far

wishiwas21again Wed 03-Nov-10 10:32:35
"It is like the playground, people desperately fawning over the leaders"

I defy you to find a single post of mine- over a Mumsnet history of several years- that fawns on Xenia or suggests that I regard her as my leader.

But the playground situation that springs to mind on this occasion is of a new boy trying to pick a fight with someone in an underhand way and then discovering other people won't stand for it. It has nothing to do with the popularity of the person you picked on- we just don't like your methods.

Mumsnet etiquette is quite clear. Using swearwords in an argument is accepted, starting a separate thread merely to pick on a named person is unacceptable. And that is the way we would like to keep it.

Much as I disagree with Xenia, I respect her because she never fights dirty. If you want to win respect, that is the way to do it.

I don't think you're a bully. But:

I feel tempted to report this elsewhere

is a bit... I don't know how to characterise it ... but for sure its liable to antagonise people who enjoy MN as it is.

Yeah you can fix a stairgate, I fixed a door last night.

i put my dc first by working ft.