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To be scared sh*tless about the cuts being made.

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lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 10:17

We will be hit very, very hard by these cuts. dh is out of work, and has been for some time. he has finally been offered a p/t job (min 12h contract) at a local shop but there is genuinely nothing else out there for him. we receive full HB and CTB, have one child and I am unable to work due to a severe form of teitzes, I did work for Iceland but even working on the till made my condition worse. I receive IB.

my condition (while I am in constant "humming" pain) is subject to flare ups. and flare ups often occur after something as simple as shopping. there is no cure and I am likely to get worse. I am terrified that the DWP (under new guidelines) will take away our HB and CTB because dh cant get a full time job. I am terrified that I will be pronounced fit to work when (if you look at my records) I am not.

anyone else want to sit with me and quake as the coalition plunge us back into poverty?

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snowmash · 20/10/2010 15:57

Lissieloucifer if you get put in the support group, the 1 year thing wont apply...and they haven't said when they'll start bringing in the 1-year business yet.

You might want to go to a disability forum to find out more.

Afaik migration starts Oct 2010, but they will be cherry-picking (and real migration doesn't start til Feb 2011 I think) - here for short version.

That said, Malcolm Harrington has been asked to review the reassessment system, so it may all change.

lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 16:00

"These cuts are because labour are a useless bunch of stupid fuckers."

and not because of the conservative's political ideology? I do not think that the cuts have to be made all at once, I do not think the reforms are workable in practice. there will be a huge increase in crime and fewer police, more people ill as an effect of poverty and fewer nhs resources, people being unable to afford rents and unable to clamber onto the property ladder.

the people moaning about labour now are the same ones who took advantage of low intrest rates and took out huge mortgages under their leadership. and as for linking pensions to earnings, well, fine if only the high earners worked hard, but what about people like my FIL who worked hard all his life in low income jobs? the rich need the poor more than the poor need the rich.

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lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 16:05

thank you snowmash, I will visit CAB next week to find out what our options are. We are in a weird limbo-land.

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ccpccp · 20/10/2010 16:05

I dont remember Thatcher very well, but I do remember the gross incompetance of Labour.

Anything is better than those inept tw@ts.

lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 16:06

things were much MUCH worse under thatcher, trust me.

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mamatomany · 20/10/2010 16:08

lissieloucifer - the faster the money is paid back the less compounded interest we will have to pay, it's basic maths.
I don't like some of the cuts they are making but you can't please everyone.

ccpccp · 20/10/2010 16:08

Lets hope Cameron/Clegg are better than the both of them then.

Off to a good start I think.

pommedeterre · 20/10/2010 16:09

The rich pay all the tax used to run the country so we probably all need them.
Labour set up a load of useless departments/jobs that we all paid for. The party is now at an end.

mamatomany · 20/10/2010 16:10

the people moaning about labour now are the same ones who took advantage of low intrest rates and took out huge mortgages under their leadership.

And we wouldn't have needed to take out huge mortgages if the banks hadn't been deregulated and house prices inflated.
A big mortgage is nothing to be chuffed about especially when you realise the couple of 40 year olds next door paid 1/3 of what you did back in 1990.

lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 16:13

so its better to plunge the bottom half of society into poverty than to take longer to pay it off? the deficit is mainly there because we had to bail out the banks, the tories opposed banking regulations at the time. I strongly feel that the deficit is merely a tool to realise conservative idealogy.

ccp, I dont at all. I voted lib dem, and I bitterly regret it now. nobody voted in a con-dem coalition.

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mamatomany · 20/10/2010 16:19

The faster it's paid off the better for everyone.
I do think the doom mongers need to get some perspective, people are currently better off than at any other period of time in history and still they moan.

lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 16:21

you know what, im going to Biscuit my own thread.

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ccpccp · 20/10/2010 16:25

What did you think you were getting when you voted LibDem lissieloucifer? They were nowhere near power without coalition.

You should have voted labour if you hate the Tories so much.

Everyone is paying for the cuts. The reason why the bottom half of society seems the most impacted is becasue they get most benefit from government spend. And its government spend that HAS to come down.

Its been a 13 year party at the taxpayers expense. As pommedeterre said - The party is now at an end.

lissieloucifer · 20/10/2010 16:28

I will be totally honest, I was hoping for change, I was disilussioned with labour and had misplaced faith that the libdems would stick to their left winged roots. I was wrong.

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MrsC2010 · 20/10/2010 16:39

Quite, Mama, my parents live mortgage free in my dream family home worth £750k...that they bought for £250k (which we could afford) in 1999.

NunOnTheRun · 20/10/2010 16:46

YANBU.
The constant stream of abuse/ misinformation against poorer people in the press - combined slow drip of facts re the cuts has been awful Sad

sarah293 · 20/10/2010 16:50

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uyter · 20/10/2010 16:56

I don't think its as bad as I thought it would be. Spending on health and schools(although education budget as a whole is being cut) is going up slightly. We need to accept that we have chronically overspent and now we have to deal with the debt.

overmydeadbody · 20/10/2010 16:57

I'm not sure being scared shitless, or worrying is going to make any difference really.

What we have to do is accept the cuts, and then, if we really don't like it, actually do something about it, something more productive than moaning.

But that's not gonna happen is it. We're an apathetic country of moaners.

curlymama · 20/10/2010 16:59

Is it the physios that give you access to wheelchair clinics in your area then? A wheechair being the wrong size is more of an OT department surely? Not much help if those are cut as well though. Could the GP refer you to the wheelchair clinic or are you allowed to self refer. Sorry if it sounds patronising, I guess you have done what you can already. Do you have any idea when your dd will be reassesed?

Badly fitting wheelchairs are just such an awful thing, which is so unfair when you are confined to a wheelchair in the first place.

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follyfoot · 20/10/2010 17:05

The axe has already fallen on my job (NHS). I'm applying for jobs on a third of my previous salary because so many jobs that I could do are no longer being filled. Have to say I really dont see me getting a job in the short to medium term. It really is that bad.

Went to the job centre yesterday but you cant see anyone until you have filled a load of forms in online/over the phone first. Dont think I can face going back tbh its so bloody depressing in there Sad.

My husband is self employed doing consultancy work for a company that refurbs social housing - cant see that lasting somehow...

Thats just the impact on one family, our scenario will be replicated hundreds of thousands of times all over the country.

Even more depressing - and much more important of course - is the immense impact of the cuts on services themselves, which I dont even dare think about right now.

curlymama · 20/10/2010 17:08

That's crap! Especially when you think how lond it would take on top of that to actually get the chair fitted and made Sad

Are you on the waiting list with whizz kids? I have a friend that teaches for them and they sound fantastic, but I have no personal experience and obviously charities are limited by funding too.

pompadourprincess · 20/10/2010 17:14

I think the biggest worry for me is the 10% cut a week on childcare for tax credits . That will be a big hit for families who pay already expensive childcare and with all the other cuts and increases in fuel food etc. It feels pretty bleak to me.

mamatomany · 20/10/2010 17:15

What did you do follyfoot ?