The cuts are coming

[newwave]

The Con-Dem cuts are nearly here AIBU to hope that those who voted Tory get hit the hardest and lose the most.

I will admit to voting LD but i never expected some of them to be such a bunch of snide gits, as for Danny Alexander I want to stamp on his smug sneering face

yanbu!

"I will admit to voting LD" - that's different to voting Tory, how, exactly?

YABU, because Labour was also planning to make cuts if they had held onto power.

I voted Lib Dem to keep the Tories out of our constituency lol!!!! My labour vote would have been totally wasted. Our Lib Dem MP is a hard worker and is definitley voting against the tuition fee rise.

YABU - how nasty of you. Why should those who voted Tory be hardest hit? Would Iit BU to say all those nincompoops who voted Labour derserve to be hardest hit?

Whilst I'm not a fan of Danny Alexander, what an awful thing to say.

Cuts have to be made - or would you prefer that the spending carried on unabated and that teachers, nurses police personnel etc didn't get paid?

Riven - not all public sector pensions are gold plated - the average public sector pension is approx £7.5 - 8K. Not much really for being spat at, abused and threatened on a daily basis.

"Not much really for being spat at, abused and threatened on a daily basis."

The vast majority of public sector employees, of course, are not remotely subjected to that. I'm not at all averse to the public sector pension scheme, although were I a member I'd worry about the commitment of a government in 2030 actually being prepared to pay out, but it's needlessly over-dramatising to imply that the majority of public sector staff aren't working hard, but perfectly safely, in offices well away from the nastier end of the public. And, ironically, those that are confronted with these problems often get worse pensions anyway...

Agree with BellBookandCandle. I was on of the last people to get onto the final salary pension scheme. It will be worth about £5K per year and yet people are STILL going on about public sector workers getting lower wages than their private sector equivalents 'because the public sector benefits compensate for that'. No, they bloody well don't.

Anyway, I appear to have ranted and this topic has been done to death. OP, you are definitely not being unreasonable. Most Tory voters I know have a massive case of 'NIMBY-itus' - the cuts should always fall on other people, oh god no, never them. I look forward to seeing what happens tomorrow.

I think those who will be worse hit (at least initially) will be public sector workers who are in the main Lab voters - voting Tory if you are a civil servant or in local govt is a bit like Turkey's voting for xmas.

yabu though as we are all going to be hit by the recession and destablisation caused by these cuts.

No one voted for this coalition Government - there was no box to tick to say you want a ConDem gov - so it pisses me off when the Politicians justify their butchery by saying we voted for it - 'we' didn't! The votes were cast and a gov needed to be formed but it is not backed by a huge majority of the public.

YANBU..but you are a fantasist

tokyonambu [hhmm] I'll introduce you to the person who assaulted me in an alleyway on my way home from work simply because of where I worked.......or the man who threatened to throw bleach at me because he hadn't received his payment ..........or the person who didn't want to wait in a queue and so threw a computer at my colleague.............or the womamn who thought it aceptabloe the smear the contents of her baby's nappy on the counter just becaus3 she could..............or the man who when being interviewed under caution in his home thought it clever to start masturbating. I could go on............

The custs will affect everyone, regardless of their voting preference.

....or even cuts!

YABU.

Lol @ how I misread the title.

As Sandi Toksvig said "The Tories; putting the 'N' in 'cuts'"

ExhaustedNurse - thank you - the good do outweigh the bad, but knocking the public sector without realising what crap we put up with seems to be the new national occupation [hsmile]

By the time I retire my (and many others) gold plated pensions will probably be worthless

The cuts would be coming either way NewWave, even Gordon Brown couldn't have kept his head in the sand for too much longer about it.

"Riven - not all public sector pensions are gold plated - the average public sector pension is approx £7.5 - 8K. Not much really for being spat at, abused and threatened on a daily basis."

To achieve a pension of £7.5K pa, compare the pensions contributions from a private sector employee with a defined contribution pension and the contributions of a public sector employee with a defined benefit pension.

Most private employees will never get close to a pension of £7.5. From memory most public sector pension schemes work out at an additional ~25% of an employees base salary. Most private sector employees are lucky to get an additional 5% from their employee and their pension likely isn't guaranteed like most public sector workers.

PS pensions are completely and utterly unsustainable - and I say this as PS employee.

tokyonambu As far as being spat at, abused and threatened on a daily basis, as a FRONT LINE public sector employee, I would estimate that yes, I am abused and threatened on a daily basis, spat at once or twice a week.

I have also been followed home, had threatening phone calls at home, had my children abused in the street, had eggs thrown at my window, had a car vandalised, had a bucket of water thrown at me, been bottled. I could go on, but it just gets boring. And no, I don't work for the police but in local government housing.

Walk a mile in my shoes, or do a week in my job, then you may be qualified to comment.

Oh, and the reason I still do my job is for all the people who say thankyou, and the positive difference that I feel I make to many, many vulnerable people.

The cuts are not optional and the Labour party would have to have made cuts if they had won the elections. You cannot have a deficit that is the the equivalent of 12% of GDP, its a millstone round the economys neck nor do I think it is sensible to carry on pay £40 billion a year on debt interest.
Your comments on hurting Tory voters are unnecessary as at the end of the day it was the Labour Party that has given us the largest deficit in peacetime.

YABU, do you really think labour could have continued to pay as much out on benefits etc as they did and still clear the debt the country has?

The money we have can and should be better spent and the sooner we lose the sense of entitlement people seem to have re benefits the better.

"Not much really for being spat at, abused and threatened on a daily basis."

And to repeat another point - the vast vast vast vast majority of public sector workers are not "spat at, abused and threatened on a daily basis."

YABU as someone with a disabled child the cuts will probably be particulary tough on us but at the end of the day if don't deal with your debts then they balloon and we'd end up needing a bailout like Greece and the cuts then would be even more severe.