The cuts are coming

[newwave]

The Con-Dem cuts are nearly here AIBU to hope that those who voted Tory get hit the hardest and lose the most.

I will admit to voting LD but i never expected some of them to be such a bunch of snide gits, as for Danny Alexander I want to stamp on his smug sneering face

can i ask what are 'in the time period of two parliaments'?

how long is that?

10 years

I can't answer that but my Dad thinks it's time to stock up on water, batteries and tins of soup because there will be riots.

This is all our generation's fault you understand.

Despite the fact that he voted for Thatcher twice.

graveyard won't that have been cut by your local council. DC wouldn't have had any say in that.

No, parliament breaks up for summer and restarts early late summer / early autumns in other words not long ago.

Surely they mean 'two parliaments' to mean around two years - basically before 2013

Water batteries and soup ? Lol

yes,thats what i thought,over 2 years

time to start adjusting now then. in preparation,in case i still havent found a job by then!

Exactly sprinkledust - here too

I will need to find 8 hours work at least, although depending on when this does all kick in, it will probably mean i find a job with a lot more hours. After 26 years of not needing to work for an employer, this isnt going to be easy !!!!!

uyter I don't think so, it's located at the baby clinic / health centre and the staff have NHS badges. Correct me if I'm wrong (please, I would love to send a another furious email to the council)

graveyard I don't know to be honest but the NHS has been ringfenced so it would surprise me if they were cutting services unless the PCT has decided to axe it because they don't think it is value for money or that it isn't beneficial.

Oh the value for money thing makes sense because there are two nursery nurses for five children.

But that is the point of it. DS' mainstream pre-school teachers don't know that he recognises colours, numerals to ten and shapes because they are too busy dealing with his unusual and extreme behaviour in that setting.

about my Dad, he made a stock of water, soup and batteries coming up to the year 2000 too. I bet he still has it in the garage.

I think that would be the problem graveyard. 2 nurses for 5 children is not cost effective tbh.

vixel I thinks its very dangerous when you start looking at health provision in cost effective terms.

Uyter - as I understand it although nhs money is ringfenced I would be cautious about whether frontline services would remain unaffected.

this means that if certain services within the nhs wish to expand then this money has to be found within the current budget. Therefore other services will have to give to pay for new services

"it would surprise me if they were cutting services unless the PCT has decided to axe it because they don't think it is value for money or that it isn't beneficial."

Labour had a nasty habit of setting up long-term projects with short-term funding and assuming that PCTs would somehow find the money in subsequent years.

Any NHS cut that's happening in October 2010 is almost impossible to lay at the Tories' door, simply because governments don't and can't act that fast. Either it was Labour playing with unfunded mandates, or local authorities and trusts playing the knights in the murder of Thomas a Beckett and over-delivering on what they think are their masters' desires.

It isn't on paper is it?

But the children in these groups are all developmentally delayed / autistic / have complex physical disabilities.

It's one tiny room with no garden or outdoor area, cold in winter and stifling in summer and the only expense is the cost of two part-time workers on (I'd guess) just above minimum wage.

It is the only service / intervention my son has had since February when he was diagnosed. No speech therapy, no occupational therapist, just this and it's going.

Well done Dave. You should know better.

The 16 to 24 hrs thing is going to be tough on a lot of people.

Households doing exactly 16 hours just to qualify for tax credits will now be scrabbling around to find another 8.

Meanwhile, employers will no longer be able to split a single full time job into two part time jobs and expect the tax payer to subsidise both.

Here we go:

www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/spend_sr2010_speech.htm

"Households doing exactly 16 hours just to qualify for tax credits "

I rather think that sort of incentive is the sort of thing governments of most stripes would like to see stamped out, though.

"Meanwhile, employers will no longer be able to split a single full time job into two part time jobs and expect the tax payer to subsidise both."

And again.

"It is the only service / intervention my son has had since February when he was diagnosed."

"Well done Dave".

Unless I've been asleep, Rip Van Winkle style, and it's now 2011, David Cameron has yet to be Prime Minister for any February, March or April. And it seems a little harsh, given he was rather tied up with constructing a pact with the Devil Nick Clegg to blame him for May or June. July onwards he might take a share. But if you got no treatment following a diagnosis in February, you might like to ask who was in government, and had been for the past thirteen years?

tokyo, provision was dire, I agree with you there but the one relatively cheap beneficial thing which we did have is going since the change.

It takes time for NHS treatment to kick in so I wouldn't have expected anything to happen until May whoever were elected.

graveyard its something you need to take up with your PCT and their internal allocation of resources as todays announcements have been positive in regards to spending on the NHS.

Tokyo, finding your posts fascinating. What field do you work in, if you don't mind saying? You seem well informed about economic matters in a way I wish I was. I'm still reeling from the shock at discovering the cost of the deficit. MN has explained more to me about the economic crisis (including the fact that the bank bailout did not take money out of the economy) than any newspaper.

I know tokyonambu. And though a lot of people will struggle, I have to say its about time these changes were made.