I now know I'm right about little girls and the hijab.....

[PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker]

talking to a beautiful Somali lady today(they all have hollywood smiles don't they, bloody genetic miracles!!) and she confirmed that whilst her 5 & 7 year old dds don't cover their heads she gets harassed and pressured by men at the mosque that her dds should cover. She said that whilst she doesn't because she loves her dds hair, other women do cover their very young dds. She said the men also say that unless they do it from very young they will not do it when they are the right age!

So it's not only about copying Mummy, just like the rise of the burka it's a renewed stick to beat women with.

Spikey, I genuinely don't give a toss what you call yourself, but I would like you to understand that the reasons you have given here are nonsense. You show no real understanding of citizenship, genetics, migration and basic biology.

Clem,

can I call you Helga and go marauding with you then? Please say yes!

I would be insulted that you would assume I was THAT type of Viking

but spikey people who are from england are undoubtedly descendant from another country, so are they truly english? is their blood english? the same for french/german/italian, all descendant from elsewhere on the globe, so is anybody truly anything bloodwise?

That's it, give up. I told you I wasn't going to be bowed down by a bunch of screeching Mumsnetters, who have the sense of entitlement to tell people they can't have a blood heritage as there is no blood.

Methinks it was spikey doing the screeching...[hgrin]

I don't need 15 degrees to have an identity. I have 1 degree, in none of those things. What about people who are born here, who have no academic understanding of those things. Are they who they say they are? Or is it OK for you to dismiss them, oh wise one?
Ask my Dad, who plays Italian music for a living, eats Italian food, speaks Italian, if he's English.

Are you on something?....who mentioned degrees?
What are you talking about?
Your last post makes no sense

Go on answer me with your understanding of all and sundry. Have you the right to dismiss how people see themselves if they don't have an understanding of genetics or basic biology? Why don't you link some stats now to blind us all with your infinite knowledge

It makes perfect sense I'm responding to Clemette. You people are very rude, because there's a few of you, as always happens on here, but that doesn't bother me. I'm used to it on this website

i speak french, spanish, latin and irish. i eat chinese, italian, indian and english dishes. i can't play any instrument but i listen to english, scottish, american, european music, i have visited 3 european countries. my dad's family are french. i am still from northern irish

No you're not. You have no idea what you are until Mumsnet tells you.

Hi Lurkers! Enjoying this are ya

booooooo(12 'o's)....Spikey is determined to have the last word....wel I think you are Peruvian.

do you think so? i thought australian

There you go. I'm English, you're Peruvian. Suck it up

You are British and you identify yourself as Italian. That is completely fine and it is your right to define yourself as you choose.
You also have the right to think that it is "insulting" to be called English but others have the right to object to that 1) because that implies bring English is something bad 2) because there isn't really anything genetic/in the blood line that links English people.

You have been a little hysterical in your responses which tends to undermine anyone's strength or argument. No one is screeching, no-one is denying you anything, some of us ate trying to see your view clearly but it doesn't make a huge amount of sense because it is clouded by you bring so cross

Armando Iannucci called himself a big-nosed Jock wop.

I don't know if that's helpful, but AI is surely an embellishment to any thread.

Boo to iPhone predictive text...

I'm not cross.
And I said after I meant irritated rather than insulted. And that I love England. And my view doesn't need to make sense to anybody else, wise one. My ID is mine, and mine alone. I don't see why people should have to debate this with others, defend their choices etc.

I wonder what Paulo Nuttini says he is???
Paisley born and bred
Italian ancestry
Sottish accent
If i heard him talking on the radio i'd think he was Scottish.

i was thinking of lovely paulo when i said i listened to scottish music. should i have said italian music?

Because Paulo Nuttini is such a Scottish name.
He's Scottish born

paulo is one of our better national exports!