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EDL march

117 replies

usualsuspect · 08/10/2010 20:43

To be pissed off that the EDL are marching through my town tomorrow..well the march is banned but they are allowed a peaceful protest town is multi cultural and it makes me sad that this will cause unrest

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usualsuspect · 10/10/2010 21:29

I thought racial abuse was illegal Confused

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newwave · 10/10/2010 21:36

Usualsuspect, those who spout racial abuse should be arrested however having a dislike of a certain race(s) and saying so in public is not against the law unless it is said in an abusive manner.

Calling a person "Pakei scum" (as I heard on a train not so long ago) is not on and is racial abuse (however much the person was provoked), carrying a banner objecting to immigration is not racial abuse, objecting to the Islamification of the UK is not racial abuse.

newwave · 10/10/2010 21:38

Usualsuspect, they would be wasting their time TBO, the worst thing to happen here is the Tory Garden Fete :o

southeastastra · 10/10/2010 21:44

bloody hell you don't have to be so aggressive in your posts newave Hmm

usualsuspect · 10/10/2010 21:44

It was chanted in an abusive manner ..but I cba to argue with an ignorant idiot like you any more

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newwave · 10/10/2010 21:45

Southeast "how crackers" nuff said :)

southeastastra · 10/10/2010 21:46

pardon?

newwave · 10/10/2010 21:47

Usualsuspect, then they should have been arrested.

"but I cba to argue with an ignorant idiot like you any more" whatever, the usual stance of those who know or suspect they are wrong. Ho humm

LoveBeingAMardyBum · 10/10/2010 21:49

Have any of you seen the vidoes of people having to be moved in the kitchen of big jon because the 'protestors' decided just smashing the windows wasnt getting their point across.

They choose a particular area to march to cause trouble.

newwave · 10/10/2010 21:50

Southeast

how crackers, so you would support a (for example) nazi march, as we live in a free society :S.

My apologies if that was not directed at me.

usualsuspect · 10/10/2010 21:50

No I know I'm right ..you are just boring me

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thefirstmrsDeVere · 10/10/2010 21:51

Indiginous, isnt that anyone who can trace their ancestors back 17,000 years?

Like Nick Griffin can.

Hmm
southeastastra · 10/10/2010 21:52

er yes it was aimed at you

people generally get on, whatever race or class, without arseholes marching for er the right to be intolerant wankers?

AliceInHerPartyDress · 10/10/2010 21:53

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mippy · 10/10/2010 21:58

What do you mean by 'Islamification'? What is this, and where is it happening?

How far back do we class 'indigenous'? There are British Asians whose families have been here 3 or 4 generations now. I'm white, my family tree goes back to the Viking invasion, and yet a few generations ago my family was Irish. So does that mean I have more of a voice than someone whose family was from Kolkatta rather than Cork?

elphabadefiesgravity · 10/10/2010 21:58

YANBU. They were in my local town earlier in the year on the same day as I was chaperoning a group of children taking part in a local dance show. Although our timings did not co-incide too much with the trouble it was a nightmare. At one point the staff had to barricade everyone into the theatre. Some children from another dance school couldn't get through and two parents pulled their children from the show.

The mess inthe town was awful, it was pure hatred. The police were great, really helpful when I had to walk a child through town whose wheelchair bound parents could not get through the cordon to the disables parking to pick her up.

It was very scary to be in town that day.

newwave · 10/10/2010 22:02

Usualsuspect, I thought you wasnt bothering anymore.

Alice, did I say the person was right.

I was on a train going to Cheltenham it was crowded.

when a man who appeared to be in his thirties got up from his seat to go to the toilet, he put his case on the seat and asked the man in the next seat to keep an eye on it, a standing male passenger picked up the case and put it on the luggage rack and sat down (the man in the adjacent seat did speak to him but was ignored) when the other man came back they had a row which included the first man calling the second man "paki scum".

He was provoked and he should have used another insult.

AliceInHerPartyDress · 10/10/2010 22:05

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newwave · 10/10/2010 22:09

Mippy. Islamification is the actions of a minority in trying to set up a seperate community with the imposistion of Sharia law.

As for the indiginous thing what i am trying to say (badly) is that you cannot set limits to the (lawful) freedom of protest in this country by those born here because another section of society finds it objectionable.

If 95% of the EDL break the law at a demo then that 95% must be arrested however the peaceful 5% have the right to be there.

usualsuspect · 10/10/2010 22:12

Sorry back Grin what other section of society do you mean? do you think it was only muslims that didn't want the EDL here?

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newwave · 10/10/2010 22:12

"Ah, the Stealth Reveal". Please explain.

Southeast, er yes it was aimed at you, then why are you miffed at my first reply.

southeastastra · 10/10/2010 22:16

just re-quoting my how crackers comment really isn't telling me much though

newwave · 10/10/2010 22:17

Usualsuspect, I suspect they had many fellow travellers who wanted then there including the BNP and other right wing nutters. By the same token a lot of others from all sections of society did not want them there.

I wonder how many in Leicester agreed with their "message" but did not want the trouble that goes with it.

newwave · 10/10/2010 22:21

"just re-quoting my how crackers comment really isn't telling me much though"

Ok I posted and you replied by calling me crackers, I replied in a tart manner and you called me aggressive (which i dont deny although tbh it was very mild).

I think thats it.

AliceInHerPartyDress · 10/10/2010 22:28

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