to take out my dc who has the pox?

[sleeplessinseatle]

Obviously not to playgroups etc, but I've got a baby at home and don't think I can cope otherwise. Is there anywhere we can safely go where there won't be lots of kids/pregnant women?

Susan, I am really sorry for your loss. You must be utterly heartbroken. xx

SassyS - this is very similar to the 'no cycling helmet' thread isin't it? In my opinion the only person who can understand our fears and worries is another person who has been bereaved of their DD/DS. Another person who is walking the 'crappy path' we walk each day.

Sending my love and support, as always xxx

SassySusan, v v sorry for your loss. In defence of some who thought your DD was very ill, I too had to reread your post, originally thinking it said 'DD nearly died', when actually said 'DD, who was nearly 4, died', v sorry and do wish it had been other way round

AvrilHeytch Thu 30-Sep-10 12:26:37
Yep, I think that when someone is so recently bereaved, having lost their child to chicken pox; being so upset, and unreasonable, is almost excusable.

Oh I see - being "so upset and unreasonable" is ALMOST excusable?

Only ALMOST?

Yeah, you're right... my daughter only died. Maybe if I'd been raped, lost a limb and the cat had been run over too, it would be tragic enough for me to be totally excused.

Do you behave like this to people in real life too?

Apologies, I had not seen that SassySusan's daughter died from complications arising from chicken pox. I understood that she was seriously ill.

I do understand her anger and her upset but feel that a post such as that should not be left on the board.

My sympathies, SassySusan. I cannot imagine what you are going through, and threads like this must be hard on you.

TBH i'm fucking astounded at some of the posters on this thread.

As long as you're ok in your own little bubble and nothing happens to you, it's alright, eh?

Fuxake.

SassySusan, am very sorry for your loss. Can only imagine how utterly awful it must be to lose your child in this way and then hear other people talk about this risk as 'acceptable'.

SassySusan
XPosted with you there.

I am going by your post earlier today:

SassySusan Thu 30-Sep-10 11:08:50

YABU

My daugther aged nearly 4 died of complications arising from chicken pox last April.

Try telling her it's boring at home.... oh no... you can't ....

Now, look I am sorry for your loss and I know that nothing that is said online is going to help you get over that loss but I am only going by what I read on this thread. Again, I apologise if I upset you, it was not my intention.

arfasleep
Thanks for your post, I had not realised it was "nearly 4". I had read that she almost died.

arfasleep I appreciate that people skim posts, but when you are posting about a seriously sick child or a dead one, it is good manners to at least read it properly.

On a related note, the poster above knows my daughter has died, and still thinks it is unreasonable for me not to say... Oh well... the risk is very small, and it is hugely inconvient for other mums to sit at home and not spread cp... and not many children will die or pg ladies miscarry anwyay.

I particularly appreciated the rudimentary lecture in risk from SGB, as I am exceptionally dim myself.

so sorry loudlass for your loss :(

to the OP YABVVVU to consider it. I did it for over 10 days with mine. I hate seeing people out with it, selfishness in the extreme.

Just read rest of thread, so very sorry Sassy for your devastating loss :(

SS Good point, and do appreciate that you & Loudlass do post about this, it must be very difficult, but it is obviously v important.

MmeLindt You may not be trying to be offensive, but you are doing an extradordinary proficient job.

The "she" you refer to is my daughter Catherine. She is about the same age as the little girl baking cakes on your profile (your daughter I assume). Catherine loved to bake too.

Thank you for reporting my post. I am clearly the most offensive poster on this thread, and you have absolutely got your priorities right.

I hope you feel great about when you tuck your daughter up in bed tonight.

'If you are in an at-risk group, either get vaccinated or buy yourself a germ suit.'

That is just so selfish (and abit ignorant) surely? I would far rather be 'inconvienienced' than cause severe illness or kill another person. Not evryone can have vaccinations and they don't always work. I am sick of seeing kids in shops/libraries etc with Pox/Flu/bad croup etc, even at toddler groups!!

If someone has to go out and uses a raincover then they are at least caring but to not bother is selfish in the extreme. It is so easy to think'oh well it's rare, it will never happen to me etc, my kids are alright' but you just never know what is going to happen, one child infected when it could have been prevented (when the pox is obvious) is too many.

CP is not given as a routine vacinne in GB because it is very ineffective, i.e. people who are vacinatted still routinely get CP.

Having said that, I think getting vacinnated for everyone is a fairly good idea (obviously). I wish i had done it.

The CP vaccine is about as effective as any other vaccine. It should be made as easily available as any other routine vaccine.

It always amazes me that people even ask this question. Of course YABU and of course you should stay indoors with your daughter until spots have dried out. It's so sad that some seem to think that to avoid being 'seriously inconvenienced' for a few days it is worth risking another childs' health.

Sassy
I have apologised several times, I am truly sorry that I have offended you. I did not know the name of your daughter, which is why I used "she".

I am now at a loss to think of something to say, aside from the fact that I am sorry.

I am going to leave this thread now as it seems that everything I write is going to be the wrong thing.

Susan, some very selfish views have been posted on this thread, no doubting that. In your shoes I think I would hide this thread now. I can only guess at how hugely upsetting it must be for you. Don't put yourself through the trauma of arguing with people who don't care less. I honestly do mean that in the nicest way. You shouldn't put yourself through it. Fwiw, many us us on this thread share your disdain towards those who take such a cavalier attitude to the health and wellbeing of others.

AvrilHeyth i HAVE A BETTER IDEA! Why don't YOU divert your energies into a campaign for cp vacs instead of me? Although I'm cock-a-hoop to hear your accurate summation that it is improbable anything so horrible will happen to any of you lot, it is actually IMPOSSIBLE that CP will affect me, as I have had it already, and ALL MY CHILDREN ARE DEAD.

I apologise profusely for willfully misrepresenting you. And I'm sorry to raise the idea of child death, words that you can't even bear to type.. come here... let me give ya a hug {{{{Avril}}}}

Bloody lucky you don't have to think about children dying too often, isnt it?

'Why not divert your energy into campagining for routine vaccination against CP?'

Could you be any more condescending or patronising, i wonder?

Maybe, just maybe, it's taking Sassy all the energy she has just to open her eyes in the morning.

It may not happen to us but it happened to someone else. Surely that means we should care/emphasise how awful it must be and want to prevent it happening again no matter how 'small' the risks are, they are childrens lives which are precious.

I didn't read the deleted post but find some of the responses to Sassy's posts abit patronising/offensive to be honest. How does anyone other than those who have been through it know how awful the heartbreak must feel and to hear people talking flippantly about the cause (and then told that it is rare and probably won't happen to us), I would think surely what is said when going through that horror is excusable?