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to think that truely feminist stance on prostitution, is to support legalisation?

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StuckInTheMiddleWithYou · 21/09/2010 18:00

I recently moved to an inner city area.

There is a known brothel here and a homeless shelter.

I have seen some very sad, desperate sights walking past our home lately.

I wouldn't want any child of mine involved in this trade, however this does strike as something which desperately needs regulating - for the sake of the women, girls and boys involved.

Prohibition has failed miserably.

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Mandamumu · 22/09/2010 23:57

It also says:

DISCLAIMER: Everything here is fantasy except where clearly stated otherwise. If you can?t see the difference between reality and fantasy, then for God?s sake, GET HELP! The author in no way condones or advocates carrying out any of these acts in real life.

ROLEPLAY SEX
The author is a big advocate of roleplay sex in real life, which may involve pretending to do some of the things described here, but is based on mutual informed consent and a careful and risk-aware approach to ensure that there is no harm done to any participant.

and

This is real life. This is an episode from my own life. It is not intended to be erotic, although I imagine that some people interested in the things this blog is about, might find it so. I feel no pride in any of this. Rather, it is something that has left a psychological scar that I think will be with me for the rest of my life.

I am recounting this because I believe that it can bring hope and understanding to some young person out there who may be going through some of the torments I went through. Because I believe that maybe, if you are that person, it can show you that there is a way out, a way to avoid becoming a monster.

Mandamumu · 22/09/2010 23:59

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With all this in mind, I hope you will understand that any comments about how hot and erotic this passage is, will be deleted, and the commenter will be added to my hate-list.

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Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 00:11

He put up a post which tells of the horrendous thoughts he had due to depression/mental illness and explains to anyone else with a similar problem that you don't have to go off and do these things, that there is help out there.

Don't twist that as well.

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Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 00:21

You really do seem to be quite twisted.
That is not pornography, I don't know how you could see it as such.

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jenny60 · 23/09/2010 09:27

Actualy, defending someone like him makes perfect sense for pro-sex industry people. He says:

'It?s possible that extreme porn saves lives, by providing a safe and non-destructive outlet for the fantasies and urges of people like me. The only time those fantasies become dangerous (as they did in my case) is when the person having them is suffering from mental health problems and feels isolated (for example, because of their deviant sexuality)'.

Luckily for the woman who was walking her dog on the golf course and narrowly missed being raped by him that:

'less than an hour before taking the dog for his walk, [I'd] been watching an erotic movie of a woman being hanged. I had masturbated to orgasm while watching it. And, as near as I can guess, the fact that I had sated my sadistic death-fetish desires in that way is the only thing that saved that woman?s life'.

Thank god for the 'non-destrutive outlet'.

Presumably prostitutes provide a similar service because if it wasn't for them, the poor men who 'have' to have sex would get it some other way. This is another justification of violent pornography, and a veiled threat too: let us watch women being hanged or we might rape you. As he said:

'I am also recounting this just in case someone out there who creates legislation on censorship of pornographic material, will understand that there are costs to banning the sorts of material I write about here'.

Christ almighty Sad

TheButterflyEffect · 23/09/2010 09:56

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Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 11:35

Look, you'd have to speak to him about that.
BDSM is an emotive subject and it is a completely separate one. There are men AND WOMEN who have rape fantasies, his point is that they should stay as fantasies and people should seek help if they find themselves wanting to act on them.

Anyway, you have used him to completely draw attention away from the working girls who post on that thread.

Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 11:36

Blog, not thread...

dittany · 23/09/2010 11:43

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Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 12:07

An escort agency co-owner and a Dom.

What someone fantasises about can not be used to judge them. You have no idea what goes on in most people's heads. Men or women.

You can only judge them if they attempt to act out their fantasies on an unwilling participant, he told his story to stop others doing just that.

jenny60 · 23/09/2010 12:10

He told his story to justify looking at pornography that featured a woman being hanged.

Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 12:11

"Politically organising"?

We just cross post our blogs to the same place.

As do several working girls, which was my point in the first place. If you don't want to read what those two wrote, then don't.

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Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 12:34

No it's a central point for sex industry blogs. As I said, it wasn't started by Douglas, he offered to take over when the woman who started announced that she didn't have time to run it any more.

Don't use how you feel about Douglas to twist what the site is about. I actually like him and his partner. As I said, some women prefer to work with the protection and organising skills of a good agency. He runs a good agency. If you want to rail against pimps, then find the nasty ones who coerce women and let loose on those who deserve it.

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Mandamumu · 23/09/2010 12:49

He does represent the interests of the girls who work for him and many other girls as well.
He doesn't tell us what is good for us, he asks.

Anyway, again in his case, you'd need to take it up with him.

Anyone who is interested can scoot through to the first blog posts on there (pre Douglas) and work back, if that makes you feel better.

You may be interested to know that Silky (IIRC) is a street worker.

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