Dad ogling pg 3 girls in playground

[anotherglass]

Strolled into school this morning with DS1 (6) to find a dad "reading" pg 3 of the Sun ( norks were in full view of the Year 2 line up ).

I thought this a tad inappropriate and asked him to turn the page, but he was really put out and huffed and puffed at me.

Tell me I was not being unreasonable.

I'm going to ask this again and see if the YABUers think it would be ok if he was in the yard with an A4 size photograph of a woman with naked breasts?

Would you argue then that it is legal as no different to what you can see on pg3?

Herbeattitude, it is not inappropriate to read a newspaper in a school playground, however you feel about the content.

I think if I was so against page 3 I would campaign for it to be banned. If the school make a ruling, as a parent you would be stupid to flout it. If another parent makes a ruling, apropro of nothing, simply their personal opinion, there is no need or right to go along with it. This is the point I care about.

I really don't want my child to be exposed to sex or drugs in school, but in two years he will be, as it is the LEA policy to teach this in a manner I find shocking.

There is a lot wrong with society and the things our kids are exposed to. I personally am trying to find ways to prevent my child having to attend the sex and drugs part of the curriculum. If I cannot bypass it, I will have to send him to another school. Better start saving.

Much as I can see your points, and the logic and plain feeling behind them, I cannot agree that it is reasonable to ask someone to close their newspaper, or to make an issue if they refused.

And that is all I will say, good evening to you all and happy debating.

YANBU well done OP for the reasons set out by HerBeautitude above. What a moron (nim not you obviously).

That wasn't a put down, it's the name of a harmless pastime. For example here

HerBeatitude - You can't keep kids away from smoking, drugs and porn full stop.

They can't even manage this in prison ffs.

anti feminist has been used as put down on mn,was discussd extensively.many posters found its usage and the feminist board belittling

I think you are being a bit unreasonable because when you think it's ok to police what people are reading that's bordering on fascist imo.

perfumedlife - I would kindly suggest that if you try to keep your DC away from knowing about sex, you may end up a young grandmother. Obviously take this back if you plan on teaching him about these matters at a young age. Kids are having sex from 12 you know. Not all, but some. If he doesn't know about the risks of doing so, he might be one of them.

"Herbeattitude, it is not inappropriate to read a newspaper in a school playground, however you feel about the content"

I'm not arguing that it is inappropriate to read a newspaper in a school playground, I am arguing that it is inappropriate to be showing porn. Page 3 is porn. If someone is reading the Sun and it is folded onto page 14, with no pictures of a sexual nature, that's fine - but the OP specifically stated that he was showing page 3, which is soft porn.

And there is a massive difference between the normalisation of smoking, drugs, porn, etc., and discussing the issues around them in an age appropriate, classroom context.

There was a bloke who used to come and collect his kid at my DD's school and stand there sipping Stella Artois (I'm guessing he thought that as it is so reassuringly expensive, it was more classy than yer common or garden carlsberg). He was politely asked by the head, not to bring alcohol into school because it wasn't appropriate. He shouldn't have needed to be told. Just as anyone looking at porn shouldn't need to be told. It is not unreasonable to find it inappropriate and wrong.

amazing how asking someone not to ogle page 3 in the school playground gets elided into near-fascist censorship.

The OP didn't tell the man he wasn't allowed to look at page 3, she merely asked him to turn the page because it wasn't an appropriate environment for it.

Suppose I were to take a true-crime book with very graphic colour photos of dismembered corpses into the playground and sit reading it where children might see it.
That would be inappropriate, wouldn't it?
And if you asked me to close the book and I grumbled at you about censorship, that would make me an arsehole - it would not be about censorship, it would be about consideration for others and the correct time and place for things.

YANBU. Agree with HerBeatitude and OP - it's inappropriate.

And you Seth.

You probably ought to read a little about Mussolini's Italy and Hitler's Germany before you start bandying the term 'fascist' about!

It doesn't matter a bit whether he was wanking or not. It's the fact that there was a woman on display to him, and the message that sends to boys and girls, and any adults around him.

Wanker!

sf,you're being facetious.that wasnt what i said.hell go play feminist strip poker if it floats yer boat

Actually anti-feminist is a perfectly reasonable term to use, if anti-feminist sentiments are being expressed.

It's like objecting to someone accusing Nick Griffin of being racist. If it looks like a duck and it sounds like a duck... anti-feminist isn't a put-down, it's a description of a point of view that the poster using the term genuinely believes to to be accurate. (I don't think I've ever used it myself tbh - may have done, but it's not something I do regularly by any means - but what is this attempt to either ban the use of it completely, or pretend that if it is ever used, it is a sneering put-down rather than a genuinely held opinion of a point of view? Some points of view are anti-feminist and there's nothing wrong with saying so.)

well thars the rub,a pejorative term used to reflect non adherence to an inferred orthodoxy.thought the point of feminism was free expression,robust discussion,not mane calling and trying to marginalise divergent opinion.certainly as recent thread attests (and no i wont link it) plenty were unhappy with it usage

no, the point of feminism is the liberation of women.
Free expression is an entirely different cause.

Blimey. I'm astonished at how many people think YABU. You're not.

What sethstarkaddersmum said.

free expression is a modality of ideologies,discussion and central to any hoped for change as or agitation.as soon as expression is inhibited or censured then an implicit right and only way emerges.stifling other different or challenging ways.cant have feminism without free expression.any robust movement should be able to robustly withstand challenge and divergence.or else how did feminism evolve?someone had free expression and challenged orthodoxies

All that may be true (who knows? buggered if I know what you're on about!), but even if freedom of expression is necessary for feminism, doesn't mean that it is the point of feminism, surely?

YANBU and well done for confronting him about it.

Totally inappropriate to be displaying soft porn in front of 6 year olds.

He wouldnt have huffed and puffed if he felt he had nothing to reproach himself for.

I'm actually quite bored now