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Dad ogling pg 3 girls in playground

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anotherglass · 21/09/2010 15:02

Strolled into school this morning with DS1 (6) to find a dad "reading" pg 3 of the Sun ( norks were in full view of the Year 2 line up ).

I thought this a tad inappropriate and asked him to turn the page, but he was really put out and huffed and puffed at me.

Tell me I was not being unreasonable.

OP posts:
StayFrosty · 22/09/2010 16:07

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HerBeatitude · 22/09/2010 16:28

Boredguy you need to get a hobby.

You are boring us.

sethstarkaddersmum · 22/09/2010 16:37

needlepoint is fun, satisfying and easy.
He will want something easy.

vanillacupcakes · 22/09/2010 16:37

LOL

OP - get over it!

So WHAT if ANY kids saw it? "Oh no! Look at that man looking at a photo of boobs! Does this mean that this man has some kind of... boob fetish? Shudders" I mean seriously, is the OP for real?

Reproduction is a fact of life. Men need some sort of (often VISUAL) stimuli for this to happen. That is also a fact of life. It seems as though an ordinary, hetero sexual bloke enjoys looking at a woman's breasts. How awful! Why would this be troubling for children? They wouldn't even be here if not for this fact of life!

It's stuff like this that makes me seriously pissed off with other women. Get a grip.

vanillacupcakes · 22/09/2010 16:39
  • bloody MN! :)
sethstarkaddersmum · 22/09/2010 16:43

assuming he wasn't about to start TTC in the playground, VanillaCupcakes, how is reproduction relevant? Hmm Men are perfectly capable of waiting till they get home. The drive to look at photos of breasts isn't so all-consuming as all that you know; if it was they would have to give men regular breaks in the workplace every 10 minutes so they could go and look at some more breasts.

you may show your kids soft porn when they are 6. I don't, and I don't see why anyone else has the right to put it where my kids can see it.

vanillacupcakes · 22/09/2010 16:45

But I just don't actually understand what the problem is at all???

sethstarkaddersmum · 22/09/2010 16:50

because page 3 is a particular representation of sexuality, it is not 'natural' sex, or objective factual information about sex, it is sex as packaged and sold by a newspaper in order to sell more copies.
It promotes a particular view of women as big-breasted sex objects who are there for men's pleasure.
infant school children are just too young to be exposed to those images IMO because they are too young to have a meaningful discussion about them and the fact that they reflect a particular view of sex rather than how sex necessarily has to be.

when they're old enough to understand and question the images I wouldn't have a problem with them seeing them.

HerBeatitude · 22/09/2010 16:52

ROFL at vanillacup.
I didn't realise men needed to procreate while collecting their kids from school. I'll make sure I'm wearing my crotchless knickers next time I go to collect the kids. Best to be prepared.

HerBeatitude · 22/09/2010 16:56

"Reproduction is a fact of life. Men need some sort of (often VISUAL) stimuli for this to happen".

Most of the men I've met just need a dick. That seems to be perfectly adequate for the purpose.

LindenAvery · 22/09/2010 16:57

Rofl at VCC too!

vanillacupcakes · 22/09/2010 16:57

It's part of life! Just accept it!

LindenAvery · 22/09/2010 16:58

NO

vanillacupcakes · 22/09/2010 16:58

Everyone is, of course, entitled to their own opinions. But I really see nothing wrong with Page 3. Some kids saw it in a playground, big deal.

petisa · 22/09/2010 17:00

Should we have a shag in the school playground too then, since that's part of life and how children are conceived, after all?

HerBeatitude · 22/09/2010 17:00

Woudl you say to a black person fighting racism that it's part of life and s/he should accept it, vanilla?

We don't want to accept it. We have more self-respect than that. And we have ambition and vision for our daughters. I want her to grow up knowing that she is as human as a man and expecting to be treated with respect and humanity. I'll fight anything that undermines that expectation.

ChippingIn · 22/09/2010 17:01

bare breasts were clearly visible 3 feet away

OMG - bare breasts - I do hope you don't have the discovery channel at home or the home births one! Do your children never see you naked?

sethstarkaddersmum · 22/09/2010 17:01

Domestic violence is a part of life! Just accept it! Racism is a fact of life! Just accept it! The gender pay gap is a fact of life! Just accept it!

....or we could not accept any of those things, or sexism either.

I do not want my dd growing up thinking that her main value is in her physical appearance and that she has to follow the scripts for sexuality dictated by the sex industry. And I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure she doesn't.

Boredguy · 22/09/2010 17:05

To the women who insulted my posts - I'm going to put a link up - this you - take it like a woman (I will find it)

Some people are so easy to wind up and get angry Angry

HerBeatitude · 22/09/2010 17:08

~"OMG - bare breasts - I do hope you don't have the discovery channel at home or the home births one! Do your children never see you naked"

My kids see me naked every day.

Have you not read the thread? Did you not see the posts where people are discussing the portrayal of women represented by page 3? Do you not understand the points made several times now in this thread, about how the presentation of women's bodies as boys' toys, is a completely separate issue from women's bodies per se?

It is very difficult to have a discussion with people who appear not to have actually read any of the posts. Confused

sethstarkaddersmum · 22/09/2010 17:08

they see me in the bath or breastfeeding frequently. They've never seen me with my tits thrust out and topless, posing for dh in the bedroom, and I'm going to try and avoid them seeing it thank you very much.

if I was, ahem, getting ready to have sex with dh and a child walked in I wouldn't carry on while they watched Confused, I'd immediately resume normal behaviour and hustle them out of the bedroom. wouldn't you?

can people really not see the difference between breasts going about their daily business and sexily-displayed breasts? really?

Boredguy · 22/09/2010 17:09

I hope you women are ready to see the link I have found - it's way better than page 3 tits

HerBeatitude · 22/09/2010 17:10

If you concentrate really really hard, Boredguy, you might work out how to do a link by midnight. Good luck. Grin

Boredguy · 22/09/2010 17:12

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AbsofCroissant · 22/09/2010 17:12

For my understanding - what age is year two? (I didn't go to school in the UK)

And, just to clarify ... why are men needing to gear up to pro-create in the school playground?

And finally - I don't think Page 3 is intended to be an educational aid. It's designed to tittilate.

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