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Dad ogling pg 3 girls in playground

406 replies

anotherglass · 21/09/2010 15:02

Strolled into school this morning with DS1 (6) to find a dad "reading" pg 3 of the Sun ( norks were in full view of the Year 2 line up ).

I thought this a tad inappropriate and asked him to turn the page, but he was really put out and huffed and puffed at me.

Tell me I was not being unreasonable.

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perfumedlife · 22/09/2010 13:15

I think it's unlikely a school would want a ban on any reading matter. Children seeing adults read is itself a good thing. The original premise is being changed here, perhaps to beef up an argument. The op was asking was she being reasonable in asking the man to close a page. There was no mention of bnp. And some people think, regardless of what she found offensive, if he was reading a legitimate, legal document, she should just ignore.

If I saw a parent read a bnp pamphlet, so what? I read the enemy too, you must, to research what people are thinking and planning. If my child saw the leaflet and asked ( massively unlikely) I would explain what the BNP are and stand for.

We live in a democracy, hard though it is to believe sometimes. Live and let live. Kids don't grow up in a vacuum, they see images of a sexualised nature in many places, and in year three are taught about sex.

The question was not 'what do you consider suitable reading material for school age children?'
It was, " was I reasonable to ask the man to close the page"

Very different things.

anotherglass · 22/09/2010 13:30

Perfumedlife,

It is disingenuous to declare that the children were not shown porn. Were you there? I was and bare breasts were clearly visible 3 feet away from where the children were lining up.

Also disingenuous to suggest it "rude and unnecessary" to ask the man to turn to the page. I would not expect the school to expose the children to pg 3 girls so why should it then be acceptable for a parent to bring the material onto the premises and then expose it to the children, albeit inadvertently. This is not about the right to read a paper, but the rights of children not to be exposed to a soft porn picture - (ie forget the what is was wrapped in).

If the teacher had seen it she probably would have been "rude" and "dictating" as well.

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PosieParker · 22/09/2010 13:43

Not so different questions really pl. Do I want my children exposed to this material at all? No. Do I have control over every image they ever see? No. Can I expect my children not to be exposed to such images in a playground? YES. Can I ensure this by asking someone to turn their page? YES.

AbsofCroissant · 22/09/2010 13:56

Would you be happy, for e.g., if a teacher was viewing booby pictures in the classroom during a quiet time in lessons?

scottishmummy · 22/09/2010 13:58

not same abs.teachers are subject to appraisal,expected standards,and gtc regards behaviour and conduct in school

sun reading members of public are not

dat is the big difference

perfumedlife · 22/09/2010 14:03

Indeed it is not disingenuous to declare they were not shown porn. They may have been exposed to nude pictures, but they were not being 'shown' them, there is a diffference.

I am stating my opinion, as the AIBU thread asks, and I think it was rude and unncessasary to ask the man to close the page. There is nothing disingenuous in that, there is a difference of opinion, but yours being different doesn't make mine disingenuous.

I help out at school, the staff room is full of tabloids, the Sun, Mail, Express, you name it. So I suggest you are being disingenuous in assuming the teacher would come and bar a parent from reading the paper, how can you puport to know what the teacher would do?

I disagree with you, that is all. Whatever others say, that does happen on AIBU. But at least you have the courage of your own convictions, as I do. That's no bad thing. And if you feel so strongly, perhaps you will start a campaign to ban page 3. That I would support.Smile

Claw3 · 22/09/2010 14:05

I remember reading somewhere, probably The Sun, that ogling breasts is good for a mans health and increases his life span.

Perhaps he has medical reasons!

cestlavie · 22/09/2010 14:08

You know, I read the title of this completely differently...

Clicked through thinking that the guy had been ogling Page 3 girls who were actually wandering topless and carefree around the playground. Now that would be wrong!

smallwhitecat · 22/09/2010 14:12

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PosieParker · 22/09/2010 14:16

SWC....I completely agree. Swearing is not illegal perhaps when I pick up the boys I'll wear a tee shirt with 'fuck off' on it and happily call out 'come on you little fuckers, lets go home and eat some shit before your cunt of a father comes in'......

PosieParker · 22/09/2010 14:16

Well I might notGrin.

Boredguy · 22/09/2010 14:20

You know in the old days all the kids looked at porn mags aged 13 14 etc with women's legs spread apart showing their pussies - so how is some kid going to be scarred for life seeing the sun page 3 as they can buy it in a shop - or go on the internet and see women with animals etc or see boobs on tv

PosieParker · 22/09/2010 14:22

Boredguy....

Why don't you go and play with the traffic, there's a dear.

thebrownstuff · 22/09/2010 14:32

not sure if this angle's been explored yet...is it a state school? Grin

anotherglass · 22/09/2010 14:39

PL,

Firstly, I am not suggesting that the teacher bar the parent from reading the paper - just not looking at soft porn.

This is not about a newspaper. This is about exposing kids to soft porn.

Secondly, teachers do have a professional duty to ensure children in their care are not exposed to soft porn.

What they read in the staff room is a separate matter.

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Boredguy · 22/09/2010 14:44

I joined this mum net thing last night after they talked about it on radio 5 live - and as i suspected it is the equivalent of racism against men, because there is no man net or blokes net only mums net.

And it only works because women gossip so much.

Are people upset that I used the word cunt and pussy? Stop being repressed and bitchy against men :)

smallwhitecat · 22/09/2010 14:47

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screamingskull · 22/09/2010 14:51

The person i feel most sorry for is the poor guy who probably never even gave it a second thought on opening the paper to read it then has someone coming up behind him to ask if he could turn the page.

yes not great that the sun does have this on page two but really do think this has been blown out of all porportion.

Boredguy stop trying to get a rise out of people by using offensive words grow up, and if you care to search properly you will find there is a bit called dadsnet.

Boredguy · 22/09/2010 15:04

screamingscull

oh yeah so i am going to go on dads net and talk to men about sex! do you think i am gay? get stuffed! most of them on dad net are probably the ones who climb up buckingham palace dressed as superman after their kids get stolen by woman Shock

maybe that dad with the sun is a paedophile?

Like most of the teachers and catholic priests etc probably.

If it wasn't for men you wouldn't be mums - just sitting at home doing knitting with a pet budgie for company :)

Porn is good = I think most women like getting flirted with and looked at - otherwise they think they are ugly ???

You need men to check out your tits, cunt and ass to reassure you you haven't lost it yet Wink

Boredguy · 22/09/2010 15:07

where are the best sex discussions on mum net thing ?

2shoes · 22/09/2010 15:26

well I still say the op yabu.

perfumedlife · 22/09/2010 15:50

But the problem is anotherglass, how can the school police the issue? If they don't ban newspapers or the Sun, how do they know which page is being read? So, for the school to do anything here, it would need to request that no newspapers with page 3 inside are allowed into the playground.

Your other point about the school's duty of care is correct, but only when the children are in their care. At one minute to nine, you and the dad were in the playground, reading papers and being busy, parenting and deciding who reads what. The school was not responsible for them.

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curryfreak · 22/09/2010 15:56

Bordedguy, do you work hard at being as thick as shit?

sethstarkaddersmum · 22/09/2010 16:02

ah I was wondering where the 5 live trolls were.
Boredguy you are a revolting specimen.