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AIBU?

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Original poster

to think that Muslim Girls should not be wearing headscarves....

238 replies

PosieParker · 07/09/2010 13:28

at primary school?

here

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ShirleyKnot · 07/09/2010 13:29

why?

Iklboo · 07/09/2010 13:30

Perhaps if you set out your thoughts as to why they should not you might avoid a potential flaming?

Your thread title could be perceived as inflammatory if you don't back it up with something other than 'I don't think they should'.

Just some friendly advice Wink

yesway · 07/09/2010 13:30

Um - it is a muslim school so I think most people would expect it...

noddyholder · 07/09/2010 13:30

Why not?It is part of their religion and in children so young is something which could help open the lines of communication wrt why they wear it and what it means.children are a lot more accepting of these things and don't have the barriers up

MmeLindt · 07/09/2010 13:32

AIBU to think that Christian girls should not wear Cross necklaces in Primary School?

ladyharriet · 07/09/2010 13:32

Mm, thought it was just for adult (well, post-pubescent) women. Bit depressing on little girls.

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PosieParker · 07/09/2010 13:32

The point of covering the head is to avert the lustings of men, so to cover at aged seven is pretty horrid.

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tethersend · 07/09/2010 13:33

I agree. I do not like headscarves at all.

However, I want to live in a society where there are things I disagree with and will fight for peoples' right to wear one.

PestoEatsPastiesandSurfboards · 07/09/2010 13:34

Why shouldn't they?

sanielle · 07/09/2010 13:34

I thought children didn't have to wear them.

tethersend · 07/09/2010 13:34

What is the rationale for young girls wearing them?

Genuinely curious...

PestoEatsPastiesandSurfboards · 07/09/2010 13:35

Why can't they wear them if they want to?

kreecherlivesupstairs · 07/09/2010 13:35

I would not object to my DD wearing a headscarf if it were part of her uniform. Looks like a brilliant school to me.

tinky19 · 07/09/2010 13:36

I'd be more bothered about the horrid over sexualised clothing for very young girls in the shops today.

JodiesMummy · 07/09/2010 13:36

Yeah looks like a nice school - shame its discriminatory towards non Muslim children.

historygirls · 07/09/2010 13:36

Its cultural as well as to stop lusting. Like the hideous straw boater I wore served no purpose other than cultural.

Tokyotwist · 07/09/2010 13:37

Lets also ban trousers on girls, turbans on sikhs, the kippah on Jews, crosses on christians, dreadlocks on rastafarians earrings on anybody. In fact how about we all shave our heads and wear uniforms ... Oh yes there are already folks who do this...They are are called racists.

I hate threads like this that try to be all, lets discuss but are really just trying to wind people up. And yes I'm annoyed at myself for even bothering to respond.

noddyholder · 07/09/2010 13:37

Considering Britney spears writhing around in a traditional school uniform was voted sexiest video ever on mtv i think scarves are the least of our worries!

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 07/09/2010 13:38

Agree Posie. I'm not a fan of headscarves at all, and would prefer any questions were directed at a culture which encourages girls to cover up to protect themselves against the non-existent leering from boys.

ladyharriet · 07/09/2010 13:39

But tinky19, isn't it kind of the other side of the coin? The headscarf is supposed to signify that they could be an object of lust but are covering up. Why should a primary school child even have to, they are pre-pubescent children? It's not the norm in most Muslim societies for children to wear a hijab.

colditz · 07/09/2010 13:39

It's no different to the mandatory brrown calf length skirts that little girls have to wear at my local catholic primary school. Impractical for play, based on the assumption that if you don't cover up your body, men will be forced to lust after you, no matter how old you are, and it will be All Your Own Fault.

JodiesMummy · 07/09/2010 13:39

What do these women think they have got that us non-covered women havent Wink

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PosieParker · 07/09/2010 13:41

tinky19 Tue 07-Sep-10 13:36:07
I'd be more bothered about the horrid over sexualised clothing for very young girls in the shops today.

That's really besides the point, when a school asks girls to wear crop tops and jeggins then it may be comparable.

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ProfessorLaytonIsMyLoveSlave · 07/09/2010 13:44

To be fair to OP, I think it's the "at primary school" aspect she's getting at. I don't normally see 4-5yo Muslim girls in headscarves even where the mothers are covered.

But then again
(a) I don't normally see 4-5yo boys in ties, but some schools have that as uniform
(b) If you look around on the site then there are plenty of pictures of girls without headscarves (in the slideshow here, for example), which suggests it's a matter of choice rather than being enforced by the school. And if so then why link this thread in to the school at all?

Original poster
PosieParker · 07/09/2010 13:44

Tokyotwist Tue 07-Sep-10 13:37:20
Lets also ban trousers on girls, turbans on sikhs, the kippah on Jews, crosses on christians, dreadlocks on rastafarians earrings on anybody. In fact how about we all shave our heads and wear uniforms ... Oh yes there are already folks who do this...They are are called racists.

I hate threads like this that try to be all, lets discuss but are really just trying to wind people up. And yes I'm annoyed at myself for even bothering to respond.

WE are discussing very young girls wearing something that has historical references and reasons which include the lustings of men

: 'O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this,' and he pointed to her face and hands." (Abu Dawood, Book 32, Number 4092).

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