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Lying to work again

93 replies

cherrycakesparkle · 24/08/2010 14:25

I posted on Sunday about my concerns over leaving my breastfed son to go to a work conference which would take me away from him for at least 19 hours. I didn't want to upset my relationship with my employer who might have taken a less than sympathetic view of me not wanting to attend because of this, so was considering lying and saying that I had a hospital appointment on the day of the conference so could not go. Not a particularly moral or correct thing to do, but hardly the worst crime either.

For those of you who did not read the thread, which you can still see, I was called pathetic - or rather my relationship with my son was - I mean, it takes a special kind of nasty person to say that about a mum and her baby; lame; a pathetic waste of space - that was from one poster whose posts in general seem to me to be brimming over with rage and bitterness and hate; a nasty piece of work, and horrible - from someone confused between horrible, and standing up for yourself - amongst other things. I was told that the problem lay with me, that actually I just couldn't be bothered to go to the conference and was using my son as an excuse.I simply couldn't believe the hatred and vitriol coming from the replies to my thread. Someone smugly informed that they had morals, whilst in the same breath told me in not so many words I was a bad mother and spoiling and mollycoddling my son.

I was also accused of running 'bleating' to mumsnet, 'crying and begging' to have the thread deleted.The playground language used here is stomach-turning.Sorry to disappoint you, but there was no crying or begging involved.I have asked them to delete it and they have agreed. As far as I can see it hasn't been done yet - am not planning to check again to be honest.The whole thing, actually, has made my skin crawl with the sheer nastiness of it. The hypocrisy and sanctimoniousness almost laughable - you must not lie, ever, but it's ok to hurl abuse at people online.

By the way, those of you who are employers - your employees lie to you. Not all of them, not all of the time, but they do.You're naive to believe otherwise.

I hold my hand up and say that I reacted in kind to those who attacked me.Yeah, I was spiteful. If you insult me, I'm going to give exactly what I get. I stand up to bullies. Sorry. And make no mistake, having lurked and posted on mumsnet sporadically for the last year or so, my thread was one of the nastiest examples of bullies rounding on a poster I have ever seen. Pages and pages and pages of insults. Some generated by me, but only in retaliation. I think many of you are sadly hardened to that kind of behaviour on here. My husband read the thread yesterday and was genuinely appalled and upset to see his wife insulted like that. I have never in my life been insulted in that way, because I am none of the things I was called.Thankfully, I have a life, and friends, and family, offline who know that.

I did however receive some supportive posts. In my world, and most other normal people's, we thank people who say supportive things to us. That's not creeping or crawling, or sickeningly trying to ingratiate yourself with people (why would I? I have no intention of posting on mumsnet again).It's what people do. But that's what I was told I was doing by some of the charmers on here. I'm afraid some of you spend so much time online that you forget how real life works.

It's because of those supportive posts that I decided to post this. After talking to friends and family last night to gain some perspective on my dilemma, and, yes, taking into account what was said to me in the more sensible and well meaning posts (there I go again, creeping and crawling), I decided to come clean with work and take the risk they would be annoyed with me. And, actually, it was fine. I spoke to my manager this morning, and he is OK with me not coming. He asked in fact if there was anything else he could do to make breastfeeding and working easier for me. He is going to book out a room for me to express in every day. He also said for as long as I am breastfeeing I won't be expected to do any more overnight stays if they come up. A really good result.So in that regard, I'm glad I posted, because I might have lied otherwise.

Please, please, don't waste your time with nasty posts to me now. I am simply not going to read them. I didn't read any of the replies to my last post on the other thread, and I've no intention of logging back in to read what I imagine will just be further vitriol from some of the bored, and angry, angry ladies on this site. I've no intention of visting mumsnet again. As I say, I've posted on mumsnet for some time, and it's depressingly predictable how this will go. I imagine I'll be accused of never having told work at all - I'm just looking for an excuse to post (I don't need one). Or more charming insults - I can hazard a guess.It would be nice to think people might read it, digest it, and move on.But hey, this is mumsnet.

So save your "off you fuck then"s and "good riddance"s, and "Hey, cherry, if you decide to come back on (I won't), I just want to say this to you..."s and go take your problems out on something else. Thank you again to all who posted good advice yesterday.

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cheesesarnie · 24/08/2010 14:35

i missed it all!

DameGladys · 24/08/2010 14:42

Firstly - I'm very sorry I said you sounded horrible. It was just a gut reaction from reading but was entirely unnecessary and no doubt untrue.

I'm so happy you spoke to your employer and they are being accommodating. It really will help other women who need similar treatment in the future, well done.

I think one of the main problems was posting in AIBU - it really is a different animal from the rest of the site. Stay around and try other areas - but do try and develop a bit of a thicker skin. You do seem disproportionately wound up still by what some term 'words on a screen'.

Well done for coming back and updating Grin

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 24/08/2010 14:42

My goodness cherry, I'm shocked that you were treated this way on here. For what it's worth, I'd have taken the day off aswell. Strange things happen to alot of mumsnetters over the school holidays, I don't know why and I'm not condoning the behaviour that you have witnessed in any way. Threads won't necessarily go the way you wish them, you asked for opinions and thoughts and you did get them, whether they were what you wanted to hear or not. No two people are the same, no two people have the same views on things and some people are more vocal then others. You have recieved a mixed bag of opinions from what I gather, I did read some of your thread. This is mumsnet, there's no need to run off because you didn't get the thoughts you wanted. It's a useful tool, don't take things too seriously because you have to do what's right for you, not what the concensus on mumsnet tells you to do.

Best wishes.

Emo76 · 24/08/2010 16:24

Glad you told the truth and that your employer appreciated it. Bet you feel better than having to lie.

porcamiseria · 24/08/2010 16:27

I am glad its all OK, and glad to came clean

its a bearpit here sometimes, honestly fuck what a load of strangers say, fuck it. easy to say I know.....

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/08/2010 18:32

good to know that you told the truth.

You are not exactly bullet proof but you have come back against any problems/discrimination and more importantly you know that your boss can be approached for help.

EvilTwins · 24/08/2010 18:39

OP, I'm glad you told the truth, which, from what I recall, is what nearly everyone told you to do, though, as I recall, you told us all we were talking shit. I have no idea why you felt the need to come back on and do a massive "everyone was horrid to me" rant though.

macdoodle · 24/08/2010 18:47
Hmm
sanielle · 24/08/2010 18:59

Some people are proper hard behind a computer screen Hmm Ignore them

Glad things have worked out well for you anyway though.

Vallhala · 24/08/2010 19:03

Your Boss was fine about it all?

Told you so. :o

thesecondcoming · 24/08/2010 19:05

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lal123 · 24/08/2010 19:05

I've just read the original thread - to be honest I think that you gave as good as you got, you were pretty insulting to posters who were only giving their opinions as you asked them to. The people you seemed to take most offence at were those who told you to tell the truth, who (in hindsight) were giving good advice. To come back and start another thread about it is a bit pointless

If anything I think a post apologising to other posters and thanking them for their advice would be more appropriate.

scottishmummy · 24/08/2010 19:11

if the thread upset you why dig it all up?surely posting about it is provocative and may cause further upset

BeerTricksPotter · 24/08/2010 19:16

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Janos · 24/08/2010 19:26

Cherry, you are being somewhat over sensitive, and a bit melodramatic.

Really - all this could have been avoided if you had just spoken to your boss about your concerns in the first place!

scottishmummy · 24/08/2010 19:27

cherrycakesparkle,dust yourself down live to post another day. do post again.dont hold mn grudges/gripes.some times threads go tits up it happens.it doesnt matter though.

fridgemonkey · 24/08/2010 19:30

Ooooh, Cherry, you fibber! I'll bet you anything you are reading. Wink Grin

Glad it all worked it out in the end.

Try not to take it all too personally, .

missbeehiving · 24/08/2010 19:31

All together now,...

WORDS.ON.A.SCREEN

traceybath · 24/08/2010 19:33

Glad that telling the truth worked out so well - we did tell you to do so Smile

Granted some of us did in a considerably nice way than others though Wink

Next time - steer clear of aibu and ask bf questions in the bf section.

scottishmummy · 24/08/2010 19:37

dont get het up about a bunch of burds with laptops.not worth it

traceybath · 24/08/2010 20:06

Lol at SM - I read that as a 'bunch of turds' and thought - wow thats quite direct even for SM.

scottishmummy · 24/08/2010 20:09

LOL,but i did double check as i see what you meam. hell mn aint mn umless someone feels aggrieved

warthog · 24/08/2010 20:10

didn't read the thread and don't want to.

of course you're right to put the needs of your child first.

glad you got the result you wanted.