To think that if you are working class you are NOT irredeemable worthless scum?

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Lots of lovely attitudes shown on the 'is breastfeeding a middle class thing' thread.

How smug can you get?

Hands up if you are working class and not a stupid, uneducated, druggie, selfish, malnourished and mindless waste of space.

Oh good I will tell her, she will like that.

What about those black velvet wall hanging things, do you have those here?

Could you link to the posts where WC people were called worthless irredeeemable scum, ta.

apparently it was bf topic

Yes Morloth with glittery thread, and do't forget the light up 3d Waterall pics, or light up 3d Jesus on the cross if that was your bag..

I agree class within class, mother was sooo proud to be "upper" WC. (Up herself really).

These days I would kill for a Spanish Lady portrait my gran had up in her "parlour"- it would look totally retro with my minimalist white walls and grey Dwell corner sofa dahling!

i gues si am wotrking class?

dh is in an 'unskilled' job (shop work)

i am a sahm, used to also work in retail.

dont have a degree.

live in a council house/

dont have car

And those optical fibre thingies, like little plastic strings that glow a different colour at the end? Sob, I miss my Mum.

This thread has me snorting with laugther. Like others have said, the old definitions of class no longer apply. For what it's worth I consider myself proper Northen Working Class.
Evidence:

1. I work 9 WHILE 5, not 9 to 5

1. I have a classifcication system for differrent bread types:

Bap - soft roll, can be floured Cob - roll with a crunchy top Barm Cake - Larger roll, quite flat, floury top Oven Bottom - Large and Flat, looks burnt on the top.

1. I scoff at people in the midlands (and other areas) who use one generic term for all bread roll types.

1. I get dressed up to go round John Lewis and marvel at the prices. I consider this a day out.

please tell me someone remembers this one

Ooh did anyone's gran/mum have one of those unbelievable naff pictures of a hawaiin/south polynesian woman against a lush tropical background.

Was a bit like Gauguin, as painted by Rolf Harris.

They were so so naff but i would love one now.

Morris didn't say that anyone had actually used to words worthless irredeemable scum. But some lovely assumptions were made on a thread 'is breastdeefeeding a middle class thing' which made me angry hence ne starting this thread.

I thought class didn't exist anymore?

That being said, I was invited with dd for lunch with the "lady of the manor" and her gc, in times gone by would say vvv much upper class, the nicest people you will ever meet - generous, kind, friendly and wearing patched jumpers, dog hair everywhere.

I totally agree with the VULGAR statement but sadly we are in a oneupmanship environment these days where people only feel better if they have more, have better and can look down their noses at some.

I look down my nose at the people on Jeremy Kyle because I can and they make even the darkest days seem bright in comparison...........

However what I always thought of as working class - or how it was defined, was manual labour and pride in your job, family and your children's education or at least it was around us! I was deluded enough to think I was upper class when I was a child because we had 2 cars, turns out I might just have been brought up middle class but hopefully that doesn't make me VULGAR with it

lolol CatandFiddle - I officially love you for that cracking post

pranma i love that saying of your grandads. am definitely going to use that one with my kids, i come from working class stock, my dad was a aircraft fitter all his life yet he was the biggest gentlemen you'd ever meet.

"So how does it work Fanjo? I am genuinely interested here."

It's Education I recon, that and choice. If you have more choice - through education or money - then I think your class can change. Then again I don't know how someone would define working class.

My family goes like this.

Maternal grandparents - seamstress and Caretaker/carpenter - poor, 3 kids. Grand-dad POW during the war.

Paternal Grandparents - Secretary and Paper merchant - fairly well off. Grandpa an officer in the army stationed in N Ireland during the war.

Mum - SAHM/small holder (after working in shops before kids) then Mature student then Social worker until retirement. Now owns own 3 bed house outright.

Dad - Night porter - Small holder - Mature Student - Unemployed - Working for houseing corporation - Working with drunks in Ireland then returned to small holder before dying.

Me: University then shop work for 7 years - then dream job as librarian type person for well known organisation but earning less than £21,000. Own house with mortgage.

Don't know what that makes me but I wouldn't call myself working class. I am more inclined to call myself middle class.

remember this one, Getorf, but can't find Spanish lady or your one.

I would love them all, as a set around the room. Kitsch is fab

Technically, there's no such thing as Middle class.

If you work for a living, you are working class.

If you are born into money and it works for you, you are upper class.

The middle class was invented by working class people who thought themselves above working class.

They still have to work, though.

Technically, there's no such thing as Middle class.

If you work for a living, you are working class.

If you are born into money and it works for you, you are upper class.

The middle class was invented by working class people who thought themselves above working class.

They still have to work, though.

Yes Kevin! And what about wolves anyone else's remember dreamy wolf pictures?

Morloth there is a whole facebook group on people wearing Wolf under a full moon fleece jackets.

I just love it!

If I find a Wolf pic I'd put it with Wings of Love in DH's study darling....

Have read the BF thread now. Nobody called anybody scum ffs.

Or even anything like it.

Ok, I'll put my neck on the line. I'd be willing to bet my inheritance that if a study was done, it would find that proportionally, more MC mothers then WC mothers breast feed.

Which does not for one minute mean that I think that WC mothers are scum, irredeemable or anything else nasty. Or that many of them don't BF or whatever.

Lol at the lady. Christ that would scare you half to death!

Yes to the wolves, also great big blankets with tigers on.

And pictures with little boys crying on, which were meant to be cursed. Did anyone else have those or was that just a Devon thang?

I reckon it's all to do with what newspaper you read.

I see just as much 'classism' on this thread as is displayed towards the 'working class'. Neither big nor clever. But I guess it is obviously ok as long as it is 'working class' vs 'middle class' and not the other way round? For what it's worth, I don't really think the two exist any more as originally defined, but there are people here trying to perpetuate the 'battle'.

No crying boys but yes to tiger blankets. Lovely and soft.

Yes, yes, yes, now - letting your kids have the full Pierrot bedroom range. That was WC in the 80's!!!

i think that has to be a Devon thing. Why would you want cursed pictures of crying boys in the house?