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Support thread for anyone trying to lead an Alcohol free life - Winter 25

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Lavrander · 20/11/2025 06:58

Hello and welcome!
This thread is for anyone who is trying to live an alcohol-free life. It was first set up by @drybird and has grown into a safe, supportive space to share thoughts, ask advice, swap experiences, or simply check in as we give up and keep off the booze.

There’s no judgment here – just encouragement. Whether you post every day, once in a while, or just read along quietly, you’re part of the group. Many of us have found this thread invaluable, whether brand new to abstaining or years into AF life.

Wherever you are on the journey, someone here will have been there too. Don’t be shy about posting – we love celebrating successes of all shapes and sizes, and we’ll support you through the tougher times as well.

The only thing we ask is that your aim is complete abstinence. If your goal is moderation or a break, there are a couple of really good threads on this board that will be a better fit. That doesn't mean that slips don't happen, and we'll support you in picking yourself back up and carrying on.

Living alcohol-free isn’t always easy in today’s world, but it is absolutely worth it. And you don’t have to do it alone – we’re here to help each other realise just how good AF life can be.

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Becky3825 · 08/12/2025 09:11

Thanks @REP22 And @Crazeechick , love you guys 🥰🥲

Becky3825 · 08/12/2025 09:15

Pulling my big girl pants up. Wallowing over. I have been through so much more then this. I will not drink with you all today 💪

FiloPasty · 08/12/2025 10:50

Becky are you trying alcohol alternatives?
I had a big night last night, 2 0 beers, a zero cider and then to finish a 0 rum and coke.
The first 30 days were hellish for me and now I’m at about 90 so it’s like my body’s forgotten the hit of alcohol but my brain stil wants the absolute “relaxation” for want of a better word and even though there’s no booze in it, I’m hitting my habit of sitting and drinking on my own (I love it when the rest of the family are asleep)
Im probably odd in that over the last few years I’d cut my drinking down whilst socialising as I moved rurally but I’d still get in even if late and drink on my own. Bit sad really.

One day at a time but for me the 0% options have totally saved me. Lots of love to you all shipmates.

WendyWagon · 08/12/2025 11:18

I did try a lovely 0.5% cider from marks. I couldn't tell the difference.

ShyMaryEllen · 08/12/2025 12:43

For info, I've cancelled my membership of Soberistas. Nobody has really interacted, other than to say hello when I joined. There is a 'clock' on there that counts the days since your last drink (28) but I'm not hung up on that really, as I'd rather look at the bigger picture, which I'm choosing to see as a blip in over eight years of sobriety, and other than that, it's more of a place to record your own thoughts, and I have notebooks and devices that do that.

My plan in the NY is to cancel all unnecessary subscriptions - we have a million subs to crappy TV channels that we don't watch, and I get a few expensive special interest magazines I often don't have time to read. My plan is to record what we use over the first quarter of 2026 and cancel anything that doesn't make the cut. IMO, thanks to the shipmates (and Sid) this thread is so much better than Soberistas, so that doesn't make it through to the edit😀.

Carpetburn · 08/12/2025 19:58

Good evening everyone!
Lovely to see everyone checking in. It might make me sound a bit tragic but I was so keen to get home tonight and post! Hideous day at work and had a massive urge to wallow in gin about 4:30! However I was at work and had booked the gym afterwards as I know post work is my danger time. Had a good whinge with a colleague instead then scampered off to the gym. It was full of young folk tonight which I always find a bit intimidating as they were all so marvellously fit! But they paid me no heed and so I cracked on and even cooked dinner from scratch tonight for myself. I’ve got the house to myself which usually leads to bad behaviour!
But not today. Now horizontal on the sofa with the dog!
@Becky3825 like @FiloPasty the AF drinks really scratch the itch for me. I know they can trigger some people but they make me feel more fancy than a Diet Coke would!

elusivehope · 08/12/2025 22:20

@Carpetburn well done making it through your workday. I've also had an exhausting work day - stimulating but exhausting. I was interacting with people constantly from 9-5. Woe. I'm still not wanting to drink though, which is a blessing. I'm just so tired. And I have to do it all over again tomorrow. I came to my office well fortified with a bottle of raspberry lemonade (I think the sugar hit is good as a wine replacement) and a brie cranberry sandwich, both from M&S. Day 3 done!

Ah @ShyMaryEllen now I see what you mean by consultancy. I was interpreting it in too narrow a sense. That's good advice.

@Crazeechick it's amazing how many of us on these threads have worked/are working in education! Sheesh.

Thanks @WendyWagon for your lovely words of yesterday. Your DM sounds like a proper nightmare. It's inspiring that you have gained insight into your childhood and come out the other side. Your DD sounds amazing as well. She's lucky to have you as a mum.

I've also met some real characters in AA. I got a sense of which meetings and people to gravitate towards, and which meetings and people to avoid, because different meetings can have very different vibes. There are a lot of AA and NA meetings in my city, so I'm fortunate in that regard. I'm just not sure I can deal with stepping into the whole structure again, and trying to embrace it wholeheartedly. I'm still mulling over it. My parents' household was very rigid and authoritarian, almost cult-like in some ways, so when an organisation presents me with a set of rules to follow, I can find it triggering (to use a very American-sounding term). For the moment I'm still hoping that if I post regularly here, and use some of the strategies I know help me deal with stress (meditation, gratitude lists), I can get sober again. But I'll see how it goes.

@Becky3825 you sound determined and positive today! I hope your day went well.

I'm so looking forward to the Christmas break. I've ordered a fancy art jigsaw puzzle. I usually do a 1000 piece jigsaw once a year over Christmas; it's very calming.

Sleep well, comrades.

ShyMaryEllen · 08/12/2025 22:32

Sainsbo's Merry Berry is a decent mulled wine substitute. It's a non-alcoholic mulled punch, and has a lot more flavour than the Belvoir version. It looks like red wine, too, if anyone's looking for an AF drink that looks 'real'.

ShyMaryEllen · 08/12/2025 22:33

Sorry - that post (above) sat on my screen for ages whilst I faffed about, then I posted it and missed yours, @elusivehope.

elusivehope · 08/12/2025 22:39

No worries @ShyMaryEllen ! I'm also interested in a good mulled wine substitute. I like some of the Belvoir sparkling drinks (as I've mentioned before, I love their raspberry lemonade, and their cordials are nice too). But I tried their sparkling clementine and cranberry drink recently (it's meant to be Christmassy), and it was so cloyingly sweet, I couldn't finish it.

elusivehope · 08/12/2025 22:41

Btw I love the idea of raising a virtual AF toast on Christmas day.

taylorean · 08/12/2025 23:44

@elusivehope I was just pondering your situation... your career clearly means an awful lot to you. I wondered whether it might be worth thinking about taking a term of sick leave if your teaching stint is relatively low next term. I don't think you have to tell your employer the very precise reason; your GP could advise on what it is they have to disclose when signing you off as needing leave.

It might give you the breathing space you need to recover, lead the full life you deserve to lead, and continue to making an important contribution to your field and to your students - without waiting until things become impossible.

Crazeechick · 09/12/2025 05:31

Good morning. I'm suffering the usual sleepless nights as I start a new sober journey, but I know it'll be worth it so I'll persevere. I'm wishing you all a good day and hoping we can keep going together. My worst time for caving to the craving is early evening as it gets dark. So I need to find a way to fill this time with alternatives. Here's to a safe and sober day.

Abrandnewme · 09/12/2025 06:15

Am also awake. Weather awful here. Have to drive 90 miles shortly. At least no hangover

Crazeechick · 09/12/2025 06:43

@Abrandnewme wishing you a safe journey x

WhatMaggieDid · 09/12/2025 06:45

Hello everyone. I've been here before under a previous username but then left Mumsnet for a while. I've decided to come back solely for this thread! It's lovely to see so many familiar names still here.
I've spent this whole year practising on and off sobriety and really want to make it stick now. The longest I've managed is 42 days.
This is by far the most supportive place I've found, so I'm hoping (even though it's probably the hardest time of year to begin again) that I can do this long term. I've done all the big challenges (Christmas, holidays, a festival, birthdays) so it's now just a case of joining it all up and not giving into the wine witch when my resolve is low.

I'll catch up on the thread properly now x

Onewildandpreciouslife · 09/12/2025 07:18

Morning all.
Good to see so many climbing back on board - welcome back @WhatMaggieDid

There is a brilliant blog post by Clare Pooley called The Obstacle Course, where she talks about repeated attempts at sobriety, and makes the point that you’re doing the hardest parts over and over again. Longer term is much easier- it’s not without its challenges, but each one becomes a little easier, because you’ve handled them before. She likens sobriety to a beautiful field (with fluffy bunnies !) and says it takes 100 days to see it, and 6 months to get there.

I’m going to try to post it, but last time I tried mumsnet hid it and never released it (so if you see a hidden post from me that’s what has happened!)

I’m about to try my first run post op. The plastic surgeon says it’s ok, but I’m a bit scared! I’m telling myself just to get out there and see what happens!

Onewildandpreciouslife · 09/12/2025 07:20

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Onewildandpreciouslife · 09/12/2025 07:24

Damn - it’s done it again. Cut and paste below from the mummywasasecretdrinker blog:

“The Obstacle Course
I read loads of sober blogs, and I get hundreds of e-mails and comments from readers of Mummy was a Secret Drinker.

The ones that really make me want to cry, and yell in frustration, are the ones written by people who do the first few days over and over and over again.

They do four days sober, then back to day one. They manage ten days next time, then go on a bender. Three days. Four days again. Ad infinitum.

I get it! I really do. I've been there. We all have. And you do just have to keep persevering until one day it just sticks.

But now, with the benefit of six months of hindsight, I just want to grab them in a big bear hug and yell "Nooooo! You're doing the hardest part over and over, without ever making it to the good bits!"

And the problem is, the longer you spend wallowing around in those early dark days of despair, the more you manage to re-enforce the idea in your subconscious that that's what sobriety is all about.

So, if that's you, then think about it like this:

Imagine you're standing in a field which you've been in for a long, long time. Initially it was beautiful - filled with wild flowers, friends, sunshine and fluffy bunnies (maybe the bunnies are a bit too much? But, hell, I'm going with it).

But, over time, it's got more and more miserable in your field. There are still some sunny days, but there's an awful lot of rain, and some terrible thunderstorms. You keep thinking the flowers are growing back, but they die before they bloom. The bunnies are few and far between.

Then you start meeting people who tell you about another field, not too far away. They've seen it. Some of them live in it. It's everything your field used to be, if not more so. And they appreciate it so much more because they've seen what your desolate home looks like. They used to live there too.

"Hey, come and live with us!" they tell you. Because they're not mean and selfish. They know that there's plenty of room at their place for everyone, and they genuinely want more friends.

You really, really want to join them. But there's a hitch. There's a huge great obstacle course in the way. You can't see the whole course, only the obstacle directly in front of you. And you can't see the promised land on the other side. You have no idea how big the course is, how long it takes to get through it, or whether you're up to it.

But you know that you can't stay where you are. It's only going to get worse. So you take a leap and throw yourself at the first obstacle....

Initially it's not too hard. You've got bags of energy and enthusiasm. But, after you've been over a twelve foot wall, through a leech infested, waterlogged ditch, and dug under a fence with your bare hands you're exhausted. Fed up. You have no proof that this place even exists. You have no idea if you can ever make it that far, and you're desperate to go back to somewhere familiar, where you're not so tired, and cold and scared....

.....so you go back to your field. And initially it's great to be home. The other people stranded there welcome you back with open arms and tell you that the alternative field doesn't really exist. You're comfortable. You know what you're dealing with. You think you can see the sun coming out and a bunny in the distance....

....but you were fooling yourself. There are no bunnies left any more. The thunderstorms come harder and harder. Eventually you throw yourself at the twelve foot wall again. You brave the leeches again. You dig the tunnel. You make it to the fifth obstacle this time before you go back to the beginning.

You go back because you have no proof. You don't know how long it takes. You don't know if you can do it. You're exhausting yourself by doing those first few obstacles over and over again. It's just too hard.

So, if that's you, then listen to this. Because I doknow (as do many people reading this who I'm hoping will back me up in the comments below). I am going to say it really loudly:

IT DOES EXIST! IT'S EVERY BIT AS GOOD AS YOU'RE HOPING. IT TAKES ABOUT 100 DAYS TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT, AND ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GET THERE. YOU CAN DO IT.

The truth is that the hardest bit of the obstacle course is the beginning. So you really don't want to keep re-doing the wall, the leeches and the digging. Once you're through those, the other obstacles get easier, and they're further apart. And you get stronger, and fitter and more able to cope.

One thing to look out for is 'false summits'. Sometimes you think you've got there. You've seen no obstacles for ages, and you think THIS IS IT! Only to be confronted by a whopping great wall. (See my post on Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms).

But by now you know how to scale those suckers. It's no biggie. You almost start to get a sense of achievement from making it to the other side of each one. After all, a field with no challenges at all in it would be a little....flat and featureless.

So, my fellow adventurers, pack up your bags, say goodbye to your field, throw yourself at the obstacles and KEEP ON GOING! Do not look back until you get to the end!”

Becky3825 · 09/12/2025 07:47

Checking in. Day three. Going to train hard at the gym, ran a good few miles last night to sweat the evil poison out from the weekend. Feeling SHIT about this stupid man situation this morning. One foot in front of the other .

Whenindoubthugitout · 09/12/2025 08:27

l love the field analogy.

day 46 here.
its truly crap weather today.
can’t be arsed with life if I am honest.
but will do it anyway.

WendyWagon · 09/12/2025 09:12

Morning all.
Two big meetings this morning.

One with the big cheese city guy and the other my manufacturer.

My old boss was still bigging himself up yesterday on SM. Complete pack of lies.
He'll be saying he discovered DNA next!
I'd love to name and shame him but he'll get a visit from the rozzers next week.

ShyMaryEllen · 09/12/2025 10:08

I have a busy day. I have a class later, and a meeting tonight, and need to get things ready for friends coming round tomorrow night. My son and his dog are also staying over tomorrow (son is going out, and I am looking after the dog), and Husband is in bed with manflu. I really can't be bothered - I'm very tired and have ADD overwhelm. I also need to move presents and other 'stuff' out of the hallway so the dog can't chew or widdle on them; but that means venturing into the sick bay and risks disturbing the sleeping ogre. I have limited sympathy with said ogre, as he 'hasn't got round to' getting his flu jab (despite driving me to get mine), and he's a bad-tempered git when he's ill. I am a loss to the caring professions, I know.

I hope everyone has a good day, and that your run went well, @Onewildandpreciouslife. Will you hear more about the police visit, @WendyWagon?

REP22 · 09/12/2025 11:00

Good morning Shipmates,

Strength and love, plus courage to you all. Interesting to hear that the rozzers are getting onto your colleague @WendyWagon - hope the wretched little nub of rancid knobcheese gets what he so richly deserves.

Sorry to hear of your romantic woes @Becky3825 - maybe the timing's just not right at the moment? You deserve to be happy, and I hope things work out better in the end. x

@ShyMaryEllen perhaps your son's dog may like to play nursemaid to your husband? A farty meat-breathed bedfellow may be a useful banisher of the manflu...?!

Hope better times lie ahead for us all. In the meantime, I have to ring the hospital. The lump is back. Sid's not happy...

With love. x

Lavrander · 09/12/2025 15:11

@Onewildandpreciouslifethank you so much for posting this. When I started my sober journey earlier this year I read this (it may have been you that posted it then!) and it stuck with me ever since and I've been trying to go back and read it with no luck. So pleased to find it again. It's absolutely brilliant and true.

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