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The support thread for anyone trying to live an alcohol free life. Spring 2025.

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WendyWagon · 24/03/2025 07:06

Hello and welcome.
These threads were started by drybird in 2020 and have gone on to support many people to give up alcohol and live a sober life.
We are not a moderarion thread and only encourage sobriety. There is another long running thread if that's what you feel is right for you. Lots of support there.
We have newbies and veterans, some who have 5+ years under their belts.
We share life's up and downs (often why we drank) and no question is too silly.
Personally I gave up drinking three years ago. It's the hardest thing I've done and the best thing.
We call our selves sober sisters and even have a mascot, Sid the ship's dog.
He poses often for a cheer up picture.
We're not here to judge, just offer support and friendship.
It gets better I promise.

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LillyPJ · 21/05/2025 06:32

@Thepressuretofindaname I suffer from anxiety too but I've already found I'm less anxious all the time. I think drinking made me anxious about everything!

Onewildandpreciouslife · 21/05/2025 06:45

Lovely to hear from you @ponzusoup - you’re smashing it!! 👏👏👏

Good to have you back @MagsMagnolia

Glad to hear the anxiety is easing @LillyPJ . Drinking alcohol to cope with anxiety is like trying to put out a fire by pouring petrol on it. But no one tells us this!!

Thepressuretofindaname · 21/05/2025 06:49

Thank you @LillyPJ, that's great to hear! And glad it's working for you. Hope the holiday is going well ❤️

SmellyMe · 21/05/2025 06:53

I had to go a work social thing the other day. I have been avoiding AF substitutes the whole time. There was one time my
DH bought an AF sparking wine but I wasn’t a fan.

I’ve been so worried that if I had a good AF drink, I’d just want the real thing and be like, oh bugger it, and indulge!

So, I had an AF corona beer. It’s the most accurate tasting AF beer I ever had I fhink. My tastebuds might well have changed. But the strange thing was I felt like I physically had a beer. I kept checking the label to make sure it was AF! I felt a kind of giddiness and warmth float over me like I did when I had a real beer. Is that anxiety and nerves coursing through my veins- and that’s what I always felt like af these things- or was my body just thinking that it was having a drink and was reacting? So strange. Like I say, I kept looking af the label. I left after one.

I later went to a do at my husbands work - arguably a more stressful and nerve-wracking experience for various reasons - I had only soft drinks and felt completely normal the whole time. Bizarre.🤔

@EastCoastDamsel sorry about the dog; @Kindtomyself well done!; @WendyWagon happy continued house hunting and battles with DH, my saga continues on that front, too; @Thepressuretofindaname hello; and @mermadeincornwall the weight did not drop off for me either. I found the headspace for a diet in April - 5:2 diet - and have lost 8.5lbs/3.9kg. @REP22 £710?! 😮

Kindtomyself · 21/05/2025 07:01

Morning all.
To those who suffer from anxiety, me too. I am determined to overcome it. My brain has become wired to deal with life in an anxious way and I am totally convinced it can change so that’s what I’m working on. Meditation. Observing my thoughts and changing them to positives. I listen to positive affirmations on loop. I’m definitely getting there

EastCoastDamsel · 21/05/2025 07:11

So nice to hear from you @ponzusoup ! Amazing work on the 400days.

@REP22 DH came up with an excellent solution (although I did poo-poo it at the time) of using a thin cloth tote bag which I can easily sneak over the bottom of his paw while he is distracted with a licky mat . I then pin the handles to the top of his harness and wrap it around his leg loosely using safety pins.

This with a combination of the inflatable collar, and 2 plastic cones is keeping him off it while not observed. I take it all off for mealtimes and short strolls for toilet and then put it all back on before he goes back in the crate. It's exhausting.

Well done on the 4kg weight loss @SmellyMe !

@Thepressuretofindaname I also suffer from anxiety but the one thing I noticed with the dog saga is that, although I still feel anxious I am no longer spiraling. I could feel that I was getting anxious, was able to reflect on the feeling, asses whether it was appropriate for the situation, make a plan and act appropriately.

And then, knowing that I had done the best I could at the time, relax and go to sleep.

A revelation!

I am approaching 1 year and can hardly believe it. I rarely crave a drink anymore, I sometimes have a fleeting thought of a glass of wine or G&T in the sunshine after work but focus on all the ways my life is better now and can quickly move on.

Also, I was recently given a very fancy box of chicks from Denmark and didn't realise that a lot of them had booze in. As soon as I bit into one, I could taste it and it was unpleasant. I just didn't like the burning, chemical flavour of it. So handed them to DH, without any sense of regret/deprivation (I did make him brink me back some mini eggs from the supermarket later though) 😂😂

WendyWagon · 21/05/2025 07:47

Morning all.
It has rained here so my new plants have had a watering.

Even big bold Wendy suffers from aniexty. I think it's to do with the bullying I suffered as a child. I try to face things head on now. I'm becoming 'Angry of Tunbridge Wells', I don't live in Tunbridge Wells!. I complained to EDF this week about their estimate. The tenant before us was using lots of heat growing the Devil's Lettace. We've sent two years of readings since we bought the house but it falls on deaf ears.
The Eco husband makes me wear a cardi.

I've slept on the second cottage and I don't think it's glamorous enough. Even if I had millions I still love the thatch more. I want the pink marble work tops so I can legitimately have a lipstick pink mixer like Nigella. I also want a chandelier and DH will veto that too. He does a Roger Moore with his eyebrow on guestionable taste.

I'm trying to track down the raspberry AF cider. I got distracted yesterday by morrisons fruit trees. Fabulous.

Well done @ponzusoup blinking marvellous result.

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Itsrainingten · 21/05/2025 07:58

ponzusoup · 20/05/2025 23:47

nearly 400 days sober ladies! popping on to say keep going , it’s totally worth it, the good life is there . feel like my brain works properly for the first time in about 38 years. who knew? rarely crave booze either and still having fun. it’s worth it. keep going. love to old crew and new crew @WendyWagon@EastCoastDamsel @ShyMaryEllen@REP22 @sid@Itsrainingten@Crunchymum@Onewildandpreciouslife@mermadeincornwall@Womanshourand al you gorgeous ladies. sober is defo where it’s at.

Well done @ponzusoup this is so awesome to hear :)

mermadeincornwall · 21/05/2025 08:27

Morning magnificent ships company.
I will not drink today.

The changes that I've made have considerably improved my life,apart from one aspect. I'm optimistic that even if I can't change that issue I can at least minimise it. Life isn't perfect, it's a fool's game to waste time and energy chasing something unattainable.

Sending appreciation for nature around us today.
Remember to show up for yourself.

LillyPJ · 21/05/2025 08:38

Day 20 today. On Day 19 I successfully managed to get through a wine-tasting visit, a big group lunch with drinks provided and a pre-dinner meet-up in a bar - with just 2 AF beers and water. One thing I've noticed is that most AF beers are fine and that I can make one last for ages, whereas with 'proper' beer I'd have got through the first pint in no time and be anxious (there's that word again!) to get on to the next. My favourite AF beer is the Erdinger Wheat beer one - it's great. Tomorrow will be my three-week mark, and the longest stretch I've been dry in living memory. Anxiety is definitely on the wane. I'm hoping my liver and blood pressure are also benefiting.

WendyWagon · 21/05/2025 08:46

@LillyPJ i did an eight week stint prior to giving up the booze. I wasted twenty years of my life anxious and not present for my family.
I would never go back.
You are doing amazingly well. Keep going it's so worth it. You become free!

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Thepressuretofindaname · 21/05/2025 08:54

@LillyPJ if you can get through a wine tasting AF you can do anything! You've definitely got this! I'm really inspired for my future holiday as I know that I want to be free more than I want a drink when I think logically.
The AF beers are very good aren't they?! I cannot tell.the difference with Corona either. I'm really enjoying fentiman's ginger beer ATM.
Thanks for all who shared re anxiety,.I'm glad to hear it eases - funny we drink to ease it but it just makes it worse 🤦

mermadeincornwall · 21/05/2025 09:05

Welcome back @MagsMagnolia, 'The more times you try to quit, the higher your odds for success ' Deepak Chopra.

I too love Corona af beer @SmellyMe, it's my 6pm go to.

Love your fridge list @Healthynow, I would add 'Pat yourself on the back for doing something positive ' a bit cheesy I know but I'm all for embracing the cheese. By the way to get our names on screen press @ at the bottom of 'add post ' page. I found by trial and error to put a space before it and remove the key pad by pressing the down arrow at the bottom right hand corner.

MagsMagnolia · 21/05/2025 11:13

Thanks for all the welcome backs - I'm glad to be here again. I know I can do this, I just need to find some way of not hitting the fuck it button. I really need to look after my future self now; I've just turned 52 and I can't rely on my poor neglected body to cope with all the junk I throw at it anymore. I owe it to 62 year old me to put the work in.

Notdoingthisanymore · 21/05/2025 11:33

Popping in to say Good Morning : ) I bought a bottle of Prosecco for my neighbour for helping with something and had a small wobble where I thought about drinking it and getting another for her.. Eventually I managed to persuade myself that I would be throwing away my first week and took it round.
It's amazing what a hold it has on you..

ponzusoup · 21/05/2025 11:59

the much mentioned very very true now famous clare pooley rabbit blog ! nails it on why we should keep going

ponzusoup · 21/05/2025 11:59

oh! mumsnet have hidden it!

REP22 · 21/05/2025 12:00

Good morning Shipmates. Very relieved to see some rain here this morning. On leaving the house for work this morning, Sid and I encountered our neighbour taking her little 3 year old to nursery. The little girl loves Sid, so cuddles had to be had. I relished the feel of the rain while I was waiting for Sid to be disengaged. I quite like walking in the rain. Sounds a bit depressing, but I like it (possibly not the driving, blinding Dartmoor sideways-rain with shivering dog in tow though).

I nearly had a wobble last night as well @Notdoingthisanymore - an utter numpty is causing hassle at work that I am having to scramble to find work-arounds for, in order to mitigate the chaos he's causing until such time as he can be dealt with properly. It's exhausting sometimes. But I didn't cave and, this morning, I am so, so glad I didn't. Why do I ever thing that drinking poison is the answer? It's a few minutes' fix at best.

Glad to hear from @ponzusoup and to know that you are doing so well. You deserve your success. That's really inspiring.

Great to see you back @MagsMagnolia - my own personal fuck-it button is a well-worn one. There are some squashy cushions in the reading cabin below decks if you need to rest in shade for a while. I've found revisiting Catherine Gray's books "The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober" and "Sunshine Warm Sober" helpful when wobbles and needs-for-recharging are hovering. It will be alright; you're doing so well.

Strength and courage. Onwards with our heads held high. xx

ponzusoup · 21/05/2025 12:01

he ones that really make me want to cry, and yell in frustration, are the ones written by people who do the first few days over and over and over again.

They do four days sober, then back to day one. They manage ten days next time, then go on a bender. Three days. Four days again. Ad infinitum.

I get it! I really do. I've been there. We all have. And you do just have to keep persevering until one day it just sticks.

But now, with the benefit of six months of hindsight, I just want to grab them in a big bear hug and yell "Nooooo! You're doing the hardest part over and over, without ever making it to the good bits!"

And the problem is, the longer you spend wallowing around in those early dark days of despair, the more you manage to re-enforce the idea in your subconscious that that's what sobriety is all about.

So, if that's you, then think about it like this:

Imagine you're standing in a field which you've been in for a long, long time. Initially it was beautiful - filled with wild flowers, friends, sunshine and fluffy bunnies (maybe the bunnies are a bit too much? But, hell, I'm going with it).

But, over time, it's got more and more miserable in your field. There are still some sunny days, but there's an awful lot of rain, and some terrible thunderstorms. You keep thinking the flowers are growing back, but they die before they bloom. The bunnies are few and far between.

Then you start meeting people who tell you about another field, not too far away. They've seen it. Some of them live in it. It's everything your field used to be, if not more so. And they appreciate it so much more because they've seen what your desolate home looks like. They used to live there too.

"Hey, come and live with us!" they tell you. Because they're not mean and selfish. They know that there's plenty of room at their place for everyone, and they genuinely want more friends.

You really, really want to join them. But there's a hitch. There's a huge great obstacle course in the way. You can't see the whole course, only the obstacle directly in front of you. And you can't see the promised land on the other side. You have no idea how big the course is, how long it takes to get through it, or whether you're up to it.

But you know that you can't stay where you are. It's only going to get worse. So you take a leap and throw yourself at the first obstacle....

Initially it's not too hard. You've got bags of energy and enthusiasm. But, after you've been over a twelve foot wall, through a leech infested, waterlogged ditch, and dug under a fence with your bare hands you're exhausted. Fed up. You have no proof that this place even exists. You have no idea if you can ever make it that far, and you're desperate to go back to somewhere familiar, where you're not so tired, and cold and scared....

.....so you go back to your field. And initially it's great to be home. The other people stranded there welcome you back with open arms and tell you that the alternative field doesn't really exist. You're comfortable. You know what you're dealing with. You think you can see the sun coming out and a bunny in the distance....

....but you were fooling yourself. There are no bunnies left any more. The thunderstorms come harder and harder. Eventually you throw yourself at the twelve foot wall again. You brave the leeches again. You dig the tunnel. You make it to the fifth obstacle this time before you go back to the beginning.

You go back because you have no proof. You don't know how long it takes. You don't know if you can do it. You're exhausting yourself by doing those first few obstacles over and over again. It's just too hard.

So, if that's you, then listen to this. Because I doknow (as do many people reading this who I'm hoping will back me up in the comments below). I am going to say it really loudly:

IT DOES EXIST! IT'S EVERY BIT AS GOOD AS YOU'RE HOPING. IT TAKES ABOUT 100 DAYS TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT, AND ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GET THERE. YOU CAN DO IT.

The truth is that the hardest bit of the obstacle course is the beginning. So you really don't want to keep re-doing the wall, the leeches and the digging. Once you're through those, the other obstacles get easier, and they're further apart. And you get stronger, and fitter and more able to cope.

One thing to look out for is 'false summits'. Sometimes you think you've got there. You've seen no obstacles for ages, and you think THIS IS IT! Only to be confronted by a whopping great wall. (See my post on Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms).

But by now you know how to scale those suckers. It's no biggie. You almost start to get a sense of achievement from making it to the other side of each one. After all, a field with no challenges at all in it would be a little....flat and featureless.

REP22 · 21/05/2025 12:03

Thanks @ponzusoup - that's a really helpful reminder that the bunnies are out there. 🐇❤️ xx

WendyWagon · 21/05/2025 13:28

Personally I never saw bunnies. I was cock a hoop at 100 days and left the thread. Old timers will remember.
I was back within the month!

What I do know is I'm not climbing that wall again. It just too bloody hard.
Sweating out the booze, lying to others about my consumption and spending at least £50 a week on bottles of wine to drink at home. More if out socially.

Someone on the thread once said early drinkers miss the cue to curb their drinking after university and first home, children etc. If I'm honest I always struggled from the 1990s onwards but business commitments gave my liver a rest, ditto babies. It was only when my late brother was so ill did I think what the F am I doing? I couldn't help him as a drunk. Sadly I was too late.
However we all have something we value more than a bottle of lies.

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EastCoastDamsel · 21/05/2025 19:06

Notdoingthisanymore · 21/05/2025 11:33

Popping in to say Good Morning : ) I bought a bottle of Prosecco for my neighbour for helping with something and had a small wobble where I thought about drinking it and getting another for her.. Eventually I managed to persuade myself that I would be throwing away my first week and took it round.
It's amazing what a hold it has on you..

Well done! For resisting.

I have stopped giving booze as gifts. Initially it was because I thought best to avoid the wine aisle, and now because I am just out of the habit but also, because for me it doesn't sit right anymore.

Leaning much more into chocs, flowers, fancy soaps and even the od house plant (Christmas is good for this with poinsettia and hyacinth always available but I also like an M&S orchid)

MagsMagnolia · 21/05/2025 19:46

Thanks @ponzusoupIbthink I’m going to pick the old Pooley up again for a reread!
Can I have a moan? I’ve had a fab day, really productive. Big dog walk up the hill sorted out some junk, counselled a friend and then took myself off to a spin class. And then, right at the end when I was on a high of achievement and feeling fab, the instructor started talking about how many glasses of wine we’d earned Angry
Why do people do that!!!!
(Currently sat in the garden with a 0% Peroni but had a good old wobble about moderating for 10 mins on the way home)

Healthynow · 21/05/2025 20:04

Hello, really struggling again! DH comes in looking like death and immediately my anxiety shoots sky high. He is worried because bullying boss has got a job at DHs new job. And DH is obviously concerned the bullying will start all over again.
anyway he’s hitting the wine the last few nights and his stress and bad mood is rubbing off on me.im not sure I can deal with it all again. Any tips please?!