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The support thread for anyone trying to live an alcohol free life. Spring 2025.

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WendyWagon · 24/03/2025 07:06

Hello and welcome.
These threads were started by drybird in 2020 and have gone on to support many people to give up alcohol and live a sober life.
We are not a moderarion thread and only encourage sobriety. There is another long running thread if that's what you feel is right for you. Lots of support there.
We have newbies and veterans, some who have 5+ years under their belts.
We share life's up and downs (often why we drank) and no question is too silly.
Personally I gave up drinking three years ago. It's the hardest thing I've done and the best thing.
We call our selves sober sisters and even have a mascot, Sid the ship's dog.
He poses often for a cheer up picture.
We're not here to judge, just offer support and friendship.
It gets better I promise.

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Healthynow · 16/05/2025 18:01

JUST what I needed to hear! We HAVE got this. Right cooking! Again. 🙄

REP22 · 16/05/2025 18:11

@Healthynow I'm a devil for the tea. Unfortunately I live in a hard limescale area, so it's not always pleasant.

Sorry you're saddled with FIL living with you, that must be a challenge. Sometimes I am sad that it's just me and Sid at home. But a lot of the time I am quite glad of it.

Do you live somewhere where you could get out for a nice evening walk? Or could you shut yourself in a room with a computer and begin chapter one of an enthralling new novel about a female heroine who does away with all irritants in her life by stabbing them through the heart with an especially-sharpened pork chop? A Hemsworth could play the detective in the film version, who decides to let the heroine off the (almost literal) hook and run away to an island with her, certain that her metings-out of her meating-outs were entirely justified. Pass the apple sauce! 🥩🍎

Hang in there. It won't always be like this. ❤️

P.S. If the FiL situation is seriously grating, there's another long-running MN thread worth checking out - the Cockroach Cafe. It's a bastion of wisdom, solidarity and support for those wrangling older relatives. x

WendyWagon · 16/05/2025 18:27

I loved my old dad @Healthynow .. He lived with us for eighteen years and boy was it hard work. An army man who wanted his evening meal on the dot. I lost my love of cooking because it had to be decided a week in advance and served as per the schedule. However we all miss him everyday.

One of our number use to talk of angry weeding when things got too much or the wine witch appeared. Tis a boring task but pots look so much better after the stragglers go.

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Healthynow · 16/05/2025 21:05

Oh thank you both! You have helped me stop feeling super lonely and miserable- DH being cross as I’m grumpy. I am hiding in my bedroom. Poor old FIL offered to take us out for dinner but no one could face sitting looking at each other!
rep22 you are FUNNY! What a marvelous plot! 😀. I’m already planning the dress I’ll wear to the Oscars when a hemsworth has won one. Or maybe I’ll act in it and win one too. A sharpened pork chop? Cunning!
I know the cockroach cafe well unfortunately! Thank GOODNESS For mumsnet. You can send a rant, moan, please into the void and somewhere there will be someone kind enough to reply. And it’s so nice to hope your experience can help someone in return.
wendywagon that sounds very difficult. I do know, I’d have loved to have looked after my mum, but..Covid .
Angry weeding works, and so does planting seeds. I’m just soooo drained, can’t even begin to get off the bed for another cuppa.
Thank you so much, you’ve both cheered me immensely.
and in more positive news, hubby hit the wine and I DIDNT! aid have fought him for the bottle a month ago. Can it be true!
I did NDWYT!
keep going vibes to everyone. We can do this xxx

WendyWagon · 17/05/2025 07:05

Morning all. Ahoy and all that.

I'm off out to have lunch with one of our number. I polished off fish and chips last night (the DH wasn't happy due to my gallbladder), but a lady must have sustenance. I didn't have too much push back.

Quiet at the bridge. It looks a bit overcast.
My plants have finally been dispatched so here's hoping. I'm eyeing up some whoppers at Costco.

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Notdoingthisanymore · 17/05/2025 07:22

Morning @WendyWagon I'm up so early for a Saturday!! and I can drink water without feeling sick and no painkillers needed.
Fish and chips sound lovely. I think I'll treat myself to some this evening rather than a bottle of wine : )

WendyWagon · 17/05/2025 07:35

Sober Saturday mornings are brill @Notdoingthisanymore

I used to be in hell until lunchtime!
Well done you.

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mermadeincornwall · 17/05/2025 07:45

Morning wonderful sober ships company.
I will not drink today.

I am absolutely determined to improve my life. It takes time for new habits to become ingrained. I will keep going, no matter what,until I have a happier and healthier life.

Sending clarity of thought.
Show up for yourself today.

LillyPJ · 17/05/2025 08:33

Morning All! Feeling good today. Habits are so important - hard to establish and so hard to break. My 6 o'clock wine habit was so ingrained, I'd start looking forward to it as soon as I opened the fridge at breakfast and saw the bottle of wine waiting for me. Yesterday, for the first time in years, I suddenly noticed it was 7.30 in the evening and I'd not even thought about 6 o'clock 'opening time'. Maybe being on holiday and away from familiar surroundings helped. Seeing free Cava at breakfast doesn't help but luckily, that's never really appealed to me. Will be walking along the coast today and my treat will be an ice cream. Day 16 today.

Healthynow · 17/05/2025 08:55

Morning all! It’s so lovely to check in and hear encouraging posts!
its AMAZING to wake up and think, ooh what will I do today. Instead of just wanting to lie around and be ill.
DH is grumpy as he is so stressed, but he brought me a coffee!
mermaidincornwall I do enjoy your wisdom. I’ve been doodling through you tube looking for help as without a hangover to keep me busy, im really struggling mood wise - DH, FIL and teen proving a heady mix. And I’ve realised, (later than everyone else) that most of you tube is time wasting crap, that makes you feel more inadequate.
I have so much to declutter and redecorate and garden, and a freelance job to try and build on but I’m just overwhelmed and uninspired. And doubting my marriage. Is this normal?
sorry to be a Debbie downer, but I’m suddenly overwhelmed by feeling lost and grieving. Has anyone any tips to cope with this? Is it usual? You’re the only people I trust to ask!

WendyWagon · 17/05/2025 09:04

@Healthynow if you would like to dm me and I'll see if I can help.
I'm in the south. Not really south west but I m now back driving so I'm out and about a bit.
I had some amazing news last week and I've been offered something high level three days a week. I want to use the rest of my time building new networks and studying. I don't need to retire from life only the toxic bit!

I'd love to do a sober weekend but I'm not the best at fine detail to plan it. If anyone else fancies that let me know.

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Healthynow · 17/05/2025 09:20

Thanks very much indeed wendywagon congratulations!
it Would be lovely to do a sober weekend, but a bit daunting this morning. I’ve barely got the cougar age to meet a group of aquintances later today.

Healthynow · 17/05/2025 09:22

Cougar age! It’s the magic internet telling me I’m a cougar and to power on 😂

CuddlesKovinsky · 17/05/2025 10:35

Hello Soberlings! 😄 Enjoying the fresh loveliness of a Saturday morning after a bevvy-free sleep!

New here, and on Day 17 (yes, I started on Mayday!), though I've had five years in the past, then fell off for two years... Determined to learn from mistakes and build my quit from the bottom up this time, so very much interested in this concept of developing new habits, though I also know from experience not to overdo things too early...

Anyway, more anon, but looking forward to a sober Eurovision tonight... it's fun in its own right, and really not worth the hangover... or even just that horrible 'limp mode' when you're not ill enough to stay in bed but have to drag your arse through the precious weekend... 🥴

Enjoy the freedom! 😍

WendyWagon · 17/05/2025 10:52

@CuddlesKovinsky love the name and welcome.

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CuddlesKovinsky · 17/05/2025 11:14

Thanks @WendyWagon ! I chose the name because I love her relentless optimism... 😄

REP22 · 17/05/2025 11:18

Good morning Shipmates - Sid and I have been up bright and early and loving a sober Saturday.

Welcome @CuddlesKovinsky - I am glad you have found us. Sid is a big fan of Eurovision. 🌈. I like the UK entry this year.

@Healthynow - glad you liked the novel synopsis; I shall look forward to the thrilling adventures with the pork chop. Maybe throw in a curveball nut cutlet for the sequel...? Joaquin Phoenix could play the cutlet. Don't let him sing though.

You're not bringing things down by asking about the grief and sense of loss. These are very real. I have gone through the same and I'm sure that a lot of us have felt it too, in varying degrees. It IS a form of bereavement. We mourn the loss of the fun times we had in the early days, before it became a problem. We grieve the loss of the comfort we thought we drew from drinking (actually a lie) and we fear facing the future without it.

I've said similar in previous threads, but I'll say here - I liken it to something like the death of a much-loved maiden aunt. She was vibrant, fun, she made you feel good about yourself, and now she's suddenly gone. You will miss her more than you know how to cope with and despair that life won't be the same without her ever again. She gave you sweets and treats that you knew your parents wouldn't approve of and shared a conspiratorial cheeky wink as you laughed over them together. You had great times together. So, there's the funeral, and the aftermath, and a little while passes... and then it started to occur to you that Fun Auntie wasn't always that much fun. You remember how she sometimes laughed at the misfortunes of others. Sometimes she was rude to people, or made off-colour jokes without thinking that hurt people's feelings. There were times when she abandoned you in a dodgy pub to struggle home by yourself when she'd met someone. Sometimes the sweets she gave you made you feel sick. She made you late for work and in trouble because she kept you out too late on a work night for a laugh. The outings you went on with her were starting to cost you more and more in money and in unwise risks. In fact, all things considered, Fun Auntie was actually quite a nasty piece of work. Frankly, you're glad she's gone, She was becoming a liability, getting you into scrapes and the laughs were getting fewer and further between.

That's a bit of a stretch, I know. But drink is a false friend/relative. It does not and never will care about you to the same level that you crave for it. I used to think that I was witty, intelligent and hilarious at the parties I used to drink at. Perhaps sometimes I was - but I strongly suspect that I was actually really a rather deeply tedious little tit. I couldn't say for sure - I don't fully remember. But some of the memories I do have are mortifying.

One of the things that I found helpful was to treat it like a proper grieving process. It is a loss, not the same as losing a loved one, but a loss all the same. There are various stages of grief - https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/feelings-symptoms-behaviours/feelings-and-symptoms/grief-bereavement-loss/ - when I was getting sober I went through them all, processing them for the lose of drunk me. I don't know if that's something that might help?

It's important that you don't beat yourself up too badly for things done/said whilst drunk and the times lost to it. It's hard enough to steer clear to begin with, without constantly beating yourself up and berating yourself for things that cannot be undone. Move forward and keep your head held high. You're doing your best, and that's very good indeed. Alcohol is an insidious poison - it's got us in its grip before we even realise it. But we're here, breaking free, and doing the best we can. But it's perfectly right, I'd even argue that it's healthy, to feel grief and loss for what we're leaving behind.

Catherine Gray's books "Unexpected Joy of Being Sober" and "Sunshine Warm Sober" also have useful things to say about the sorrow at the loss of the drinking days.

It won't always feel this wretched, I promise. Keep going. The world is a better place because you are alive and sober in it.

Sidney and I are off out now. A little adventure for a sober Saturday!

Strength and courage to you. It's going to be alright. xx

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Get help with grief after bereavement or loss

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https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/feelings-symptoms-behaviours/feelings-and-symptoms/grief-bereavement-loss

Healthynow · 17/05/2025 12:39

Goodness thankyou Rep22 that’s made me cry.
Its also helped as it stops these intense feelings being confusing and frightening, if it’s a thing everyone experiences.
I think it’s also that my DD has left home, son is about to. Your aunty description ( very good! ) also sounds a lot like a close relative who I’ve only just realised is pretty destructive (and had/ has massive problems with drink). You’re right, it does feel like grieving, the link helps, thank you.
also spending wine money on a counselor on Tuesday , can’t wait!
thank you so much.
welcome cuddleskovinsky I’ve only been here a short while and it’s the best thread full of wonderful supportive people. 💐

Onewildandpreciouslife · 17/05/2025 13:16

You are going through some massive changes @Healthynow and instead of escaping from those difficult feelings you are facing them head on. That is tough, so it’s no surprise you’re feeling wobbly. But it’s so much more healthy in the long run.

I had a really tough week emotionally this week (all alright, but very draining) and I was in a right state on Thursday night. But I knew that trying to escape from it through drink wouldn’t make any of the issues go away. I have come to realise that I believe my job is to keep people away from pain, but of course I can’t do that. So now I ask myself “Can I control this?” And if the answer is no (which it usually is), the next question is “ok, what can I control? What is the next right thing I can do?”, and then just muddle forward as best I can

LillyPJ · 17/05/2025 15:01

I'm noticing how we're bombarded by alcohol, reminders of alcohol, advertising around alcohol etc all the time. We're told all the time that drinking is fun and sociable and grown-up and glamorous. It's big businesses and governments wanting to make money out of us and not adequately warning us about the dangers - so I think none of us should feel guilty about having succumbed in such an unfair battle.

Healthynow · 17/05/2025 22:30

Thank you lovely people.
i got out of my funk by reading this and seeing a friend in the sun.
im not usually a one for threads - too many people and too confusing , but this one is wonderful.
💐

mermadeincornwall · 18/05/2025 07:48

Morning beautiful shipmates on the good ship Sobriety.
I will not drink today.

I've come to realise that I need to practice self care daily, to not only get the best from it but also to build resilience. It's not selfish or self indulgent, it's the equivalent of putting your own oxygen mask on first.

Sending inner peace and gratitude for this opportunity.
Stay safe and sober.

LillyPJ · 18/05/2025 07:52

Thanks @mermadeincornwall Self-care and resilience is what I need today. We're visiting a place for 'lunch and beer' up in the mountains and I'm nervous about how I'll manage. I must remember to 'strap on my own oxygen mask' first Day 17 today

Notdoingthisanymore · 18/05/2025 08:01

Morning : ) I resisted temptation to have my own Eurovision party with a bottle of wine and got an early night instead.
Dug a small flowerbed with the help of my little neighbour (he's definitely got some gardening skills for a 5 year old!!) so I'm planning what to put there today. Have a lovely day everyone.

WendyWagon · 18/05/2025 09:02

Morning all.

I was up in the night with the dog so late to the bridge.
I had a lovely lunch out and met Sid.

Three days of driving so I'm having a day off today. Just a bit of gardening.

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