I want my baby back - Panorama

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I hesitate to put this on the board but would be interested in the views of anyone who watches this - it's tonight on BBC 1 at 9pm.

I hope it gives a balanced account. Then there is the Channel 4 programme on Wednesday T 10pm on Finding a Mum and Dad.

oooh, ouch, oh that hurt. by golly, I feel all put in my place.

I'm going to be banned by the way [sigh]

Maryz, can I PM you?

@MrsBw - well if you want a website building love then I might be a good bet!!

Nah... That's the trouble with the internet. You can never be sure whether people are telling the truth and are what they seem.

A bit like parents who are under suspicion of child abuse really.

And I'm not your 'love'.

no you aren't Mary.

I ask again: So, wizard, all these parents that trust you, how do they find you? And what do they expect you to do to help them? Because I must say if I had a problem like that, I don't think the first person I would turn to would be a web/social media consultant.

I m sorry I m just someone who stumbled upon this thread after watching last nights programme. I don't know anything about adoption, I don't need too. I just felt sorry for the people in the programme who had lost children, possibly unnecessarily. Why are children being adopted when there is a chance of an innocent explanation, the parents of Jayden would have surely have lost him and been labelled child abusers, but his death tragically proved their innocence.

Anyway, last post. I ve no interested being involved in a group of online bullies!

we aren't bullies. we are just mums with nothing else to do but spend all day talking about knitting and world affairs.

Have you actually been told you'll be banned, Maryz, or is it an informed guess?

turnwest, before you go, any chance of answering the question about the effect on an adopted child of being returned to her birth parents?

SO, where did the OP go?

Maryz

Sent :)

MadameDefarge

You prefer knitting to cross-stitching? How dare you? Bully!

Because the one thing that a lot of them have is little help. I arrange free legal advice and help with more technical stuff. Some of these women have very few people to ask for help

Doesn't the state arrange free legal advice?

I believe there are some excellent charities which can provide support which I'm sure someone else can link to,

How do they find you wizard?

wizard

"Some of these women have very few people to ask for help"

No, they don't. Unfortunately they are redirected to some debatable 'characters' instead of being assisted by associations and charities that provide free help and counselling.

Tell me you don't know this.

kew

I believe there are some excellent charities which can provide support which I'm sure someone else can link to

I could list a hundred at least. It is not useful to list them all because they change name from area to area and it also depends on what your problem is too.

The fact is that these people, including wizard it seems, are preying on vulnerable individuals for their interest. I find this DISGUSTING

You're appalling, all of you.

MaryZ, sadly there are social workers who will threaten victims of domestic violence 'if you don't leave your kids will be taken into care'. That isn't an exaggeration. It does happen. A social worker and MN poster wrote about it happening to her - with the predictable result that she kept very quiet next time she was beaten, so the neighbours didn't call the police. (She worked in adult social care, not children's.)

I wouldn't dissuade anyone from reporting domestic violence (or any violence) but social workers who have no training or education in DV can do a great deal of harm, to current and future victims.

Our local advocacy service is advertised at the GPs.

I'm sure SS can point parents in the right direction too. As can GPs. As can local counsellors and MPs. As can Children's Centres. As can lawyers specialising in Child Protection Cases. As can Children's Services at the Council. As can HVs and midwives.

MmeDefarge- I think the OP is actually an adoptive parent (who has presumably run away at the jar of lemmings worms she has unwittingly opened)

Turn- you are quite right. Lots of bullies on this thread. Or perhaps a puppeteer pulling lots of strings.

Would you agree that someone who comes onto threads and issues thinly veiled threats like, for example, "I can find you if I want you, you'd better watch out ho ho ho" were bullying? I would. That's the kind of person running rife on this thread and others today. Disgusting isn't it?

"Now I know why mums sit on these forums all day!!"

Don't you have a real job you should be doing?

"I wouldn't dissuade anyone from reporting domestic violence (or any violence) but social workers who have no training or education in DV can do a great deal of harm, to current and future victims."

You are right. Such people should be reported to their associations and lose their jobs. Someone who advises that can't work in the adult social care system, period.

But Edam, exposing children to DV is abuse in itself. Of course SS will say that. There responsibility is to the children primarily.