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Should I report this plagiarism, and if so how?

55 replies

Tatosquish · 19/01/2023 22:42

A friend’s child is at university, has mild to moderate reading difficulties which would be supported by university . Friend always assists with essays, assignments etc, and is perfectly happy to tell other people this. Has always had masses of input into child’s school work at GCSE and A level. I know that at university this level of assistance is considered cheating and plagiarism, and devalues degree qualifications. Should I dob them in? If so, how?

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Lesina · 19/01/2023 23:19

No. Just no. Walk on.

Lysianthus · 19/01/2023 23:20

Take up crochet.

Branleuse · 19/01/2023 23:22

What on earth business is it of yours?

Ivesaidenough · 19/01/2023 23:26

Surprised at the responses here. It's clearly unfair and disadvantaging other students who don't have help. I'm not sure what you can do though.

boxingdayisbest · 19/01/2023 23:28

None of these are plagiarism, they are support.

If she isn't writing the whole essay AND sitting in person exams then it's fine.

Plus, if you are a friend you should be impressed your friend is so supportive. Are you jealous?

CavalierApproach · 19/01/2023 23:32

Parent Googling material and contributing ideas (qualified in close field) as well as grammar etc. Thanks everyone for your comments.

It’s normal to get support with grammar, usage etc. in an academic context and for someone with diagnosed reading difficulties it seems like an obvious, even essential thing to do.

Something like a PhD thesis is often professionally copyedited/proofread (in practice the level of intervention is generally somewhere in between, a kind of “proof-editing”), quite openly and with the blessing of the supervisors. A candidate who can’t afford to pay might well get a friend or parent to do similar. Given that it’s fine for a thesis, why would it be unfair in the context of a less significant project?

”Googling material and contributing ideas” — again it’s far from certain that this is a problem. It would depend on the type of assignment, the extent of the collaboration and the degree to which the parent’s ideas actually persist, unchanged and without further refinement, in the final version of the material. You can’t realistically judge that unless you’re privy to all of the initial parent-child conversations and the actual completed work.

Anyway, nobody’s academic work happens in isolation. Conversations about research and discussions in which ideas are exchanged are a normal part of student life.

Isn’t that how we all get ideas? They don’t only come from our own analysis of source material, taking place entirely in our own heads, with anything anyone else says being strictly “fenced off”. They also come from things other people mention or suggest.

SpacersChoice · 19/01/2023 23:34

Tell me you’ve never been to University without telling me, OP…

caringcarer · 19/01/2023 23:54

Not your business. Say nothing.

kindlyensure · 19/01/2023 23:57

At least they're getting help from a real person and not an AI bot (which is what a lot of their mates will be doing).

Rainbowbaby13 · 20/01/2023 00:18

Maybe you should get a hobby

WetBandits · 20/01/2023 00:26

“Dob them in” Confused

Grow up and find a proper hobby

007DoubleOSeven · 20/01/2023 00:28

At some point, said child is going to have cope on their own without their parent. If said parent has been giving appropriate support, they're be fine. If they've effectively been doing the work for them...well, said child is going to have a bit of a brutal wake up call! If not at at university, then afterwards. I'd leave them to it.

Chasedbythechaser · 20/01/2023 00:32

Do you think this student is the only one in the class to get support with their work from various types of people? A lot of support? If so, you will be wrong.

cloudsandream · 20/01/2023 00:54

I’m currently in uni and work closely with their academic regulations and do yearly courses on “hey this is plagiarism, don’t do this”. What the mother is doing is not plagiarism, her helping her son because they’re in the same area, is also not a reportable offence. Unless she’s straight up writing up work for him there’s literally nothing to report here and you’d likely be ignored. You seem abit of a busybody, though.

Butterfly44 · 20/01/2023 00:56

Whatever level of education one is taking they can be tutored in it. Makes no difference if it's a parent doing it or someone else. Tutors will help with all sorts. Cheating is knowing what's on an exam paper or taking answers in with you. That's not this. Plagiarism is copying someone's work and passing it off as your own with no references.

What you describe is someone expert in the field imparting knowledge and helping out - it's called tutoring.

And what business is it if yours? Do you not have your own life to live that you're so concerned with how others live theirs?

Honey83 · 20/01/2023 01:06

I think you are thinking of collusion. Plagiarism is coping someone else's work without referencing and trying to pass it off as your own. Collusion is working together on something that should be an individual's own work. In any case, like someone else said, it's impossible to prove and probably very common. Why would you "dob in" a 'friend'?

CavalierApproach · 20/01/2023 01:12

It doesn’t really ring true that the op’s sole motivation here is the pure one of helping to preserve the value of academic degrees, does it 🧐

What would they expect to happen, I wonder, if they went ahead with the dobbing in? Child chucked off the university course? Op’s <cough> friend humbled and taken down a peg? Whole family shamed as cheaters?

It’s like some kind of misguided revenge fantasy

Rickandmortified100 · 20/01/2023 01:28

I cannot imagine ANY situation where I would encourage someone to get involved in something that isn’t harming anyone and has nothing to do with them by reporting a child who has reading difficulties for being helped by a parent to write their essays? This is so hateful and cruel of you. What are you worried about? The kid might … complete uni? Get a degree? Find a job? Oh the horror! You are being so unreasonable I can’t even find the words to describe how negatively I feel about this.

Rickandmortified100 · 20/01/2023 01:29

Like a PP said - this isn’t even plagiarism by definition.

What has this family done to make you so jealous?

lifeinthehills · 20/01/2023 02:03

Definitely not plagiarism. Collusion - maybe not. It's not discouraged for students to proof read each other's work and provide feedback. This kind of thing is also available through student support services. If the mother is writing the essays, it will become obvious in time. How? In tests and exams, there will be a discrepancy between performance and coursework. This will be noted and investigated. In courses where the exam and the coursework must be passed, the student will not be able to perform as well in exams and is likely to fail as the work gets harder over the years. Universities do take academic integrity very seriously and have processes to maintain it.

HandsOffMyCarrierBags · 20/01/2023 02:11

Grammar help and discussion around concepts is not cheating.

emptythelitterbox · 20/01/2023 02:13

It comes under collusion or contract cheating when a parent "helps" too much with assignments.

That said, how much of a friend are you if you're willing to rat their kid out over something so petty.

Cormoran · 20/01/2023 02:57

Who needs enemies when there are "friends" like you around.
Aren't you a nice person @Tatosquish

DrMarciaFieldstone · 20/01/2023 03:04

Not plagiarism.

Some ‘friend’ you are.

VioletPickles · 20/01/2023 04:31

Bit of a dick move OP.