A hill you are prepared to die on

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What is your hill you are prepared to die on.

Mine is the moon landing was fake.
Botox makes you look older.
Sex is overrated.
Some art work is not art its crap.

I respectfully disagree. I’m not British born, as you know, but I’m very frustrated with the benefits system. I don’t feel any better thinking it’s a British citizen claiming when they shouldn’t vs a non British person. I think, the nerve to game the system. The nerve to take something that you don’t need where if everyone contributed, those who actually can’t would have more?

I don’t know how rare it is really. In my time in the Uk I have know several of my friends “nannies” or “housekeepers” that are paid in cash and claiming benefits because they “don’t work” and/or they have small children. And being housed. I can think of 5 real examples in the area I lived in (Surrey) of the top of my head. Whilst I think many will in fact be entitled to benefits there are also many that work the system. It would be a lot less resentment if everyone did their bit. But no government is bold enough to actually do something radical.

But… it’s not my problem anymore, my husband and I were so disillusioned with the UK that we left the UK a couple of years ago. And we miss it, weirdly enough I think I miss it more than my husband and kids, but it was right for us.

BTW, Australia and Canada have restrictive immigration but you can still do so, depending on your profession. I know we are lucky to be able to have moved, not everyone can.

I know I won’t convince you and that’s ok 😁. We will have to agree to disagree. I would hazard a guess that your view stems from being born and bread on the UK and mine from being an immigrant most of my life.

I did enjoy our “debate” and I must thank you for keeping it polite, which I find it a rare event on MM.

Edited to say: love your username

You should ALWAYS trust your first impression of a person, always always

Calling abortion “murder” doesn’t address my point. If you care about children, that care should extend beyond birth to their wellbeing and the support they need.

I know it would be difficult to implement, and I’m not sure entirely how it’d be enforced, maybe some kind of financial incentive to use contraception. So many children are born into circumstances that leave them in harms way, and I find it heart wrenching but I know it’s a tricky one.

The last part of this response is what is all too often lacking at home. There are always those breeders who only ever bother with school when they have something to moan about or the ones who put in their frst appearence at Year 11 Parents' Evening to inform he teacher that their darling needs the highest grade and it's the school's responsibility, wotyerdoibahtit . I often greeted these parents with How do you do, so good to meet you at last.

What a load of bollox. I've had mind blowing sex. Orgasms so good I almost blacked out. Still think it's a waste of time. It's a basic animal response.

The funny thing is when I first read your post I thought yes I agree. Excellent idea. It was just once I was trying to figure out how that could come about that I thought… ah hence the problem.

There’s not much difference between the two that I am aware of, Sarah Ockwell-Smith (the author of the gentle parenting books) mentions authoritative and as far as I know they are aligned. I agree with the core values of both, it’s more about the approach than exact instructions of what to do. Gentle parenting does get confused often with passive parenting which it is very different from and I don’t agree with.

For hitting always safety first move them away, separate them in a safe way, stay calm and encourage other ways to express anger (it is ok to be angry but not ok to hit), model calmness, breathing etc. The best way to teach is to model - which is not instant but works over time (like I say it’s long game). Homework give them option of when to do it: now or in 10 minutes or suggest something to do after homework and/or do in short bursts. Essentially working out what works best for them. Brushing teeth do you want to do it or I do it, choosing toothbrush/toothpaste, making it fun/game, pretending to be blinded by how clean they are she finds it hilarious. Most of the time these things work and take the pressure off. I try to give her more control in things that aren’t as important so there’s less resistance with the non negotiables.

Botox doesn’t migrate, you’re thinking of filler 😆. If you’re going to be disparaging at least understand what you’re talking about.

I have a few! Here are ten for free:

1. 'Climate change' is an ideology.
2. Women who choose to be mothers should prioritise motherhood, family and home.
3. No one is born in the wrong body. Biological sex is real and it matters.
4. Much of academia is bullshit.
5. If you ever find yourself celebrating the murder of someone on the opposite side of the political aisle to you, you are the problem.
6. Islam is not compatible with western values.
7. The original, British "The Office" is so superior to the US version it isn't even close.
8. A conjunction is a perfectly acceptable thing to end a sentence with.
9. Everything was better in the 90s than it is now.
10. Communism can never work.

That poor parenting and societal decline is making education impossible and that many children are being denied an education because they are having to tolerate such poor behaviour every single day. The rich will be less adversely affected as smaller classes and a more focused cohort - the already disadvantaged are being heavily impacted.

Sex is overrated ? You have been doing it all wrong lol 😜
but back to mine
progress can never I cause religion . Intelligent , progressing societies have no need for it .

About 80% of men are inferior to women. Just not as capable.

After love, the next most important thing we owe our children is the best education we can manage (for me as well as most others, that is state ed. but we need to stay firmly involved as parents).

Oxytocin is a way our bodies trick us into accepting dodgy partners and marriage.

Human migration is normal. Has always happened. And we can no more stop it than we can stop the tides.

Vulva outside, vagina inside

Botox - yep. Once it starts moving/sinking, you inevitably look older. It's also more youthful to make facial expressions and when you don't, it detracts from the perception of youth. People forget, it isn't just lines or wrinkles that humans look for or respond to.

No I'm sorry @Awkwardisfunny this is not true, I've been having Botox pretty much yearly if not twice a year for over a decade, I've yet to experience being unable to make facial expressions, I'm a teacher so my students would cop & tell me 😂 also during Covid I had a longer gap,almost 2 years & I can assure you my face didn't collapse in on itself like something out of Indiana Jones, in fact because Botox prevents lines from deepening it acts as a legitimate anti-aging solution

payment for having an implant has been tried both in the Us and UK. It didn't take off over here although I thought it was quite sensible. The payment was paired with a support program IIRC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12666325

Point 2… Would it not be women and men that choose? What do you mean by prioritise? I have read it as by prioritising those things, you wouldn’t be able to work. Is that what you mean?

This is interesting, thank you for sharing.

This. The tech they would need to fake the moon landing would require more science than the tech needed to actually DO the moon landing.

5 yes
7 yes and i didn't even like the uk version
10 yes
9 no and I was there

Should be an assessment before parenthood; financial, basic intelligence or understanding, housing etc to ensure that a child will be cared for.

what would you do if they fail it?

Why would you choose to have children then since you can’t have one with a superior female being?
Why is state education the best you can do?
You need to migrate
To Lesbos

hard agree.

Which half?