Islamophobia becoming normalised in the media

[nomas]

Genuinely shocked by this headline on MSN.com today (UK site).

The title is

"Muslim convert explains why UK is 'best' as she boasts 'everything is free'"

No one seems to blink an eye at this blatant Islamophobia anymore.

Substitute Muslim for any other minority and people would be shocked for example:

• "Jewish convert explains why UK is 'best' as she boasts 'everything is free'"
• "Black person explains why UK is 'best' as she boasts 'everything is free'"
• "Christian convert explains why UK is 'best' as she boasts 'everything is free'"

Muslim convert explains why UK is 'best' as she boasts 'everything is free'

No I saw that interview on the news. It's not invented. I didn't know what religion she was.

Huh.

It's strange. If it is such a forward thinking, peaceful religion, why are so many of the countries it controls so backwards?

Why are women treated like cattle and have less rights and say in anything than men?

Why did the women of Iran go from wearing colourful 60's clothes to all covered in shapeless black almost overnight? Personal choice?

Why can little girls from 9 years old legally marry?

Why can women and girls be stoned to death for being raped? Or burned/hung/drowned for 'shaming' their family.

Why can't they drive, work or go to school?

It's almost like their holy book has some very questionable, and ultimately society destroying stuff in it.

Excellent post.
We are currently seeing some horrific behaviour from extremists in several religions play out openly in front of us. This is certainly not exclusive to Muslim extremists. It also involves extreme Jewish beliefs from Zionists and fundamental Christians, who have initiated a war in West Asia which seems likely to spiral further than it already has.

It does not follow that most Muslims/Jews or Christians hold similarly extremist views and most are repulsed by the use of religion as an excuse for violence and prejudice.

Kudos to @namechangeforthiswun for engaging in such a mature and respectful way.

First you said nobody can criticise Judaism and Jewish beliefs, now you’re talking about Israel. Which one ist it?
But of course you can criticise both, who told you that you couldn’t?

I’ve had comments deleted on here for anti semitism when I’ve criticised Israel. A certain poster (who has posted here) reported them because she believes being anti Zionism is anti Jew.

Black people, really? Because they all come from black land yes?

Did you criticise Israel or say Israel should not be allowed to exist? If the later are there other countries that shouldn't be allowed to exist or just the only Jewish state in the world?

You can research the answer to that for yourself too.

Very, very briefly, though, the West holds a lot of responsibility for what has happened in those countries. Not the Qu'ran.

I believe in a two state solution as the most realistic and peaceful option.

Whilst the west has in many cases acted in a way that allowed Islamic extremists to take over countries. To say the Quran does not play a part in most the things they poster has written means you either have not read the Quran and Hadiths or misinterpret many of its teachings. For example it is harder for a woman to enter heaven than a man, nearly impossible in fact. A husband can punish a wife using a few different tactics if she isn't respectful or providing sex. People either speak to Muslim or ex Muslim women that are frank and honest about these things or pick up a Quran yourself. Luckily most Muslims like Christians and Jews practice a more wishy washy version of their religion that leaves out the badly aged bits.

The men doing those things have agency. A religion is an every day thing too not just the text. It’s how it informs laws and lack of rights.

Hi, OP.

Just a heads-up that we've moved your thread to Chat, as it isn't really an AIBU topic. You'll probably find it's a better fit there, and hopefully you'll get more of the kind of responses you're looking for.

Best wishes,
Faye
MNHQ.

Oh, I have researched it. My father fled an islamic country because he didn't want his wife and daughters to suffer what he had to witness his mother and sisters enduring as he grew up.

He fled to the West to save us, you know, the evil civilisation that gave women autonomy, the vote and equal rights. How dare you say other men's evil is all their fault. Why do you infantalise rapists and murderers?

Have you actually done any research yourself, or just relied on the lies told to you? I have noticed those that like to throw out the 'Well I'm not going to tell you my knowledge for some inexpliacble reason, go 'research' it' never seem to have any actual points of their own.

Perhaps you can answer this then.

What are women promised in heaven, specifically?

The book is very detailed when it comes to describing what men will get as a reward in heaven. Luxury, eternal youth, eternal virgin hooris (minimum of two up to 72).

And equally it describes the majority of hell dwellers being women, because of their 'ingratitude' to their husbands. But, if they are really grateful and pious, they will have all 'imperfections' (like periods, aging and illness) stripped from them, so they can serve their husband and his army of whores in all eternity. Or she can burn in hell.

Lovely.

Do people hear not have Muslim friends?

I do not think I could be real friends with anyone who held strong religious views.

So no Christians or Sikhs or Hindu friends at all?

OP, I’m surprised that you were unaware the media uses words like Muslim, disabled, queer, non-binary, asylum seeker, benefit claimant, single mum, Russian… as rage bait. I’m not going to click on your link because my algorithm is going to start feeding me similar rage bait but you need to get into the habit of avoiding obvious traps like this and teaching your phone to avoid trashy sources.

I’m not surprised that they were able to find a real person that matches at least one of the labels in my list to say something that would get their photo published and readers commenting negatively.

I don't.

Why not?

Muslims are humans and people too. I have Muslim friends as a Hindu. Though I dislike what happened historically and dislike some of the current rhetoric they are people too

No reason, just hasn't happened.

Fair

Well, if the comments were deleted it’s difficult to know what they actually said and whether or not they were in fact antisemitic.

I’ve definitely seen people criticise the actions of Israeli government on here, without being deleted.

Well I haven't got many friends at all TBH.

But I wouldn't cultivate a friendship with someone who holds strong religious views.

I mean I am quite atheist in my thinking and not into respecting others beliefs.

I guess if a religious person could handle that I think that they are completely wasting their time then maybe we could be mates.

I find that rather sad. I am an atheist but I have friends with all manner of different religious and spiritual beliefs.

I don't share their beliefs they are fantastic people who enrich my life in so many ways.