Christa Pike -where does she stand legally?

[mids2019]

Just this really. Christ a is obviously being giving life saving treatment at hospital but where does she now stand legally. I suppose she probably has irreversible brain damage so will this not allow a second execution to take place? Is this a cruel and unusual punishment?

[Note from MNHQ - edited your title, OP]

What she did was horrific but I do feel sympathy for her, given her history of horrific abuse and mental illness.
She should of been jailed for life, with no chance of release, rather than put on death row.

I'm sure I read a few years ago that some of the major pharmaceutical companies were restricting &/or straight out banning their distribution of pentobarbital for use during executions with the result of inferior substitutes being used which might explain what happened here?

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I'm just getting through the comments now

I agree.
Drawing any kind of parallels between the death penalty and a woman’s right to choose also seems like a spectacularly bad idea to me. Even just from a PR perspective, it just plays way too much into the anti-choice/anti-bodily autonomy rhetoric.

„They care about murderers. But not about innocent babies. Do you know why? They sympathise with the murderers. Because THEY themselves support the murder of babies.“

It also links political causes that do not need to be linked. A pro-choice campaigner should not be driven away or questioned simply because she also supports the death penalty.
Just like somebody may strongly advocate against the death penalty but still oppose abortion…

In any European country she would have been put in a secure hospital for the rest of her life. This case is one of the many reasons I do not support the death penalty. She has been in jail for decades facing this , they changed their minds at the last minute and then they botched it. Horrific.

She isn't safe to be around other prisoners though so she would be kept in solitary can you imagine

True I think America should either pass a law so companies cannot do this or stop the death penalty it cannot continue like this

I see my points have been covered

Sorry @SeriaMau & @twistytwin 😎

Because they only get a certain time frame in which to try and kill someone. Once the time frame is over the killing would be unlawful. So would allowing her to die without treatment for her injuries.

i came on to say basically this. The whole thing is a mess. The death penalty is barbaric.

people should listen to the story of Damien Echols. Research has shown that many people executed in the US are likely innocent. The DP has no place in a civilised society

Not sure if this has been corrected but I have seen it a few times on here already. He got life with the possibility of parole.

Good lord, how hard is it to kill a woman? She certainly managed it.

Seriously though, it's ridiculous that they managed to botch it. If they're going to execute people then they should at least do it swiftly and cleanly, with a minimum of suffering.

And you don’t think 30 years incarceration is being held accountable?

There is a protocol, this does happen from time to time. (I'm not sure what the protocol is, only that there is one).

I am also thinking 'Chris A Pike' as in when sometimes people will say 'Jesus H Christ'.

Bottom line is we have not yet(?!) evolved enough as a species to not abuse our own young and those innocents in our care. Until/unless we do, brain damaged individuals such as Christ A Pike Christa Pike will walk among us. I think we've more chance of the human race expiring before that happens than we have of it ever happening, but I am a cynical old crone.

I read something similar - they were importing some of the needed drugs from EU and UK so an export ban was imposed. Then major FDA-approved pharmaceutical companies universally blocked the sale of their medicines for executions.

That left US states forced to source chemicals through alternative, less-regulated means.

Some states have had imports seized by their feds because sources were so dodgy and not strictly legal- and others have gone to compound pharamastis who are not as regulated to mix up needed from other chemicals but also introduced secrecy laws to avoid public backlash - so if the goods are inferior there no eyes on that becuase some the states who carry out these executions are protecting the few souces they still have.

I've also read suggetsions states who want to keep the death sentences are looking at other means to kill or do have other means avaliable but lethal injection is still the most common way in USA.

As sates carry out the execution wouldn't it vary state to state.

I just lookedd up Tennessee - they had protocol if first set of injections failed - but provided zero instructions for what to do if the second failed as well. Because the protocol did not allow for additional procedures, the execution was halted and that when Christa Pike was taken to hospital and all excutions stopped by the state by governor till they work out what went wrong.

She’s been imprisoned for 30 years. Nobody has suggested she’s being released. That is justice.

I am baffled that there are human beings laughing at a typo on a thread on this topic. How incredibly depressing.

I heard a while ago firing squad was being brought back as an option. Not sure if it happened or how many states as each state has it's own choices.

They only use lethal injection in Tennessee now, though I believe someone cinvicted long ago can opt for electrocution instead (and Crista had been on death row fror 30 years)

FWIW I'm against judicial killing in any circumstances, but to do it and then get it wrong seems almost worse. In fairness nobody's ever survived this before - though sometimes there are problems administering it because of the state of the veins - so I'm wondering if there was something wrong with the drug (tampered with, degraded stock, etc.)

The typo is funny.
It doesn't mean we find the subject matter funny.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckge4eql4q7eo

In 2022, more than a third of executions in the US were botched or highly problematic, according to the Death Penalty Information Center (DPI) - an organisation that provides statistics and research on the death penalty but does not take a stance on it morally.
The DPI says lethal injection has the high­est rate of botched exe­cu­tions.

That seems really high rate to me - but then I dislike death penalty entirely so maybe I'm bias.

I don't think any of that is true. None of the press there would be acting in a 'neutral' fashion - if they were then they would not be there representing profit making organisations.

And I'm also not sure the state has allowed them there under the impression that they are a neutral party acting in the public interest either. I'm sure there are many rule makers in Tennessee who believe in the role of the press in communicating the supposedly deterrent effect of capital punishment. That's not neutral.

So it really is about what you see as the public interest, because it's not an undisputable fact that the press are there to represent a public interest. We certainly appear to have opposing views on the matter.

This made me feel sick to my stomach today. How can any country call itself civilised and allow this to happen. I'm not excusing her crime in any way and she totally deserves a long prison sentence,but this is not justice ,it's barbaric revenge..

Yeah. You tell yourself that.